On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 7:20:32 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:20:13 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 9:31:12 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:26:45 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 2:21:19 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 11:20:10 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:14:12 -0500, Sqwertz >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Pinterest is Evil and very unfriendly It's best just not to visit
> > > > > > > > > thew site at all. It's mostly stuff lifted from elsewhere on the Web.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's exactly what it is intended to be. It's an online bulletin
> > > > > > > > board. See a link you want to remember, save it to a focused board on
> > > > > > > > Pinterest. If you have no interests that you want to save links to,
> > > > > > > > then Pinterest isn't for you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Um, that's why my browser has a "bookmark" feature.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > heh That's exactly what I thought when I read her post this morning.
> > > > > > People need to focus on saving valuable info on their OWN COMPUTERS and
> > > > > > backups, not on internet places that eventually disappear. Same thing
> > > > > > with saving pictures online.
> > > > >
> > > > > The need to store files on a local computer is certainly a quaint, old-fashioned notion. I suppose that it might make some sense in this modern world - but only if you have dial-up.
> > > >
> > > > It's about privacy and control. I don't want to relinquish either.
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > > That's an attitude born of the technical limitations of an era.
> >
> > I've at least twice had to have my credit card re-issued due to a data
> > breach somewhere. These weren't even places that I shop online.
> > The cloud is insecure. Really, it is.
> >
> > > Back in the old days, important files were backed up on tapes and stored in a remote location. This still holds true today except that the files are not put on tapes, placed in a vehicle, and driven away.
> >
> > Yes, they are. That's exactly how my employer handles backups. Ok, not
> > on tape, but to removable hard drives. Then they've moved offsite.
> >
> > > As far as your files that you want to control, it's going to end up in the same place as my father-in-law's backup tapes are - stored in our bedroom or some other dusty, forgotten, place. Eventually, it's going to the dump. Perhaps it'll be dug up a hundred years or more and archaeologists will try to read the data and business of people long dead.
> >
> > Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred my hard
> > drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no children or
> > siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first cousin.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in the modern world. My point was that young people see cloud computing differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will see it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. Obviously a wired network is likely to be more secure than one that broadcasts data through the air. Does that matter a whit? No.

I'm a software engineer. I doubt there's anything of substance that
you could teach me about computing. Data security will have to become
a hell of a lot better before I trust the cloud. I use the Internet
for shopping because of its great convenience, but I'm under no illusion
that my information is safe out there.


Cindy Hamilton