On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 1:10:07 PM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 16:08:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> >On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:37:40 PM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> >> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:21:12 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsiyahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:06:31 PM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:03:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsiyahoo.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:43:06 AM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 03:46:14 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:33:11 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 7:20:32 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:20:13 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 9:31:12 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:26:45 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 2:21:19 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 11:20:10 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:14:12 -0500, Sqwertz >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > Pinterest is Evil and very unfriendly It's best just not to visit
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > thew site at all. It's mostly stuff lifted from elsewhere on the Web.
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > That's exactly what it is intended to be. It's an online bulletin
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > board. See a link you want to remember, save it to a focused board on
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Pinterest. If you have no interests that you want to save links to,
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > then Pinterest isn't for you.
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > Um, that's why my browser has a "bookmark" feature.
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > heh That's exactly what I thought when I read her post this morning.
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > People need to focus on saving valuable info on their OWN COMPUTERS and
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > backups, not on internet places that eventually disappear. Same thing
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > with saving pictures online.
> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > The need to store files on a local computer is certainly a quaint, old-fashioned notion. I suppose that it might make some sense in this modern world - but only if you have dial-up.
> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > It's about privacy and control. I don't want to relinquish either.
> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > That's an attitude born of the technical limitations of an era.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > I've at least twice had to have my credit card re-issued due to a data
> >> >> >> >> > > breach somewhere. These weren't even places that I shop online.
> >> >> >> >> > > The cloud is insecure. Really, it is.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > Back in the old days, important files were backed up on tapes and stored in a remote location. This still holds true today except that the files are not put on tapes, placed in a vehicle, and driven away.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > Yes, they are. That's exactly how my employer handles backups. Ok, not
> >> >> >> >> > > on tape, but to removable hard drives. Then they've moved offsite.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > As far as your files that you want to control, it's going to end up in the same place as my father-in-law's backup tapes are - stored in our bedroom or some other dusty, forgotten, place. Eventually, it's going to the dump. Perhaps it'll be dug up a hundred years or more and archaeologists will try to read the data and business of people long dead.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred my hard
> >> >> >> >> > > drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no children or
> >> >> >> >> > > siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first cousin.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in the modern world. My point was that young people see cloud computing differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will see it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. Obviously a wired network is likely to be more secure than one that broadcasts data through the air. Does that matter a whit? No.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I'm a software engineer. I doubt there's anything of substance that
> >> >> >> >> you could teach me about computing. Data security will have to become
> >> >> >> >> a hell of a lot better before I trust the cloud. I use the Internet
> >> >> >> >> for shopping because of its great convenience, but I'm under no illusion
> >> >> >> >> that my information is safe out there.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You seem transfixed on the idea that cloud computing will never happen unless you personally can trust the cloud. Cloud computing is a reality and the world does not revolve around software engineers. I am fully aware that there are security problems - cut the patronizing crap.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So far, nobody here agrees with you. Why is that?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always stand by my statements. As usual, if you have any question about my statement that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it up. Please be specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't here to chitchat.
> >> >>
> >> >> You are so utterly predicable when forced to confront your own stupid
> >> >> comments
> >> >
> >> >Obviously, you're bluffing - otherwise, you'd say what comments you're referring to. I call your bluff pal!
> >>
> >> Didn't you just finish telling me "don't ****ing waste my time"? When
> >> you have not even a remotely sensible response, you get angry.
> >>
> >> Anyway... I was referring to just about all your comments in this and
> >> other threads where you talk about tech issues.
> >
> >Once again, you bluff i.e., you have nothing. I should have gone all in.
>
> Well, go on then.
> BTW, your smileys fool nobody.

OK pal, the truth is that you win. You've frittered away my precious time. I will be gracious and accept defeat this time. OTOH, I won't allow you to play me ever again.