dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 12/17/2016 9:42 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > > > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 7:50:23 AM UTC-10, Cindy
> > > > > Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:17:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 6:55:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy
> > > > > > > Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5,
> > > > > > > > dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10,
> > > > > > > > > Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10,
> > > > > > > > > > > Gary wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There's no reason to think that the foods in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the UK
> >>>>>>>>>will be the >>> same as it is now. The foods will be
> >>>>>>>>>transformed by the >>> sociological, economic, and
> >>>>>>>>>environmental, conditions of the >>> time. A hundred
> > > > > > > > > > years from now it's going to be totally changed.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess
> > > > > > > > > > is that
> >>>>>>>>>the >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots. >>
> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods
> > > > > > > > > > > that Americans were eating a hundred years ago.
> > > > > > > > > > > You might believe that but you ain't. My guess is
> > > > > > > > > > > that you're not eating the same foods that
> > > > > > > > > > > Americans were eating 50 years ago.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That is probably sort of possibly true. I would
> > > > > > > > > > venture that most Americans a hundred years ate a
> > > > > > > > > > diet of things that some Americans still eat, like
> > > > > > > > > > beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham,
> > > > > > > > > > corn, potatoes, tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans,
> > > > > > > > > > peas etch. Descendants of those Americans probably
> > > > > > > > > > still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
> > > > > > > > > > refrigeration and improved transportation, we now
> > > > > > > > > > have almost year round access to fresh fruits and
> > > > > > > > > > vegetables. \
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the
> > > > > > > > > > grocery store was tiny and had only seasonal
> > > > > > > > > > products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
> > > > > > > > > > were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans
> > > > > > > > > > opened.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to modern transportation we now also
> > > > > > > > > > have access to things we never used to be able to
> > > > > > > > > > get. Produce sections not only have more of the
> > > > > > > > > > stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of
> > > > > > > > > > imported things that he used to only read about or
> > > > > > > > > > ate when we were travelling.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada
> > > > > > > > > > have have massive immigration from other countries
> > > > > > > > > > and the immigrants have brought their native
> > > > > > > > > > cuisine.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>> My guess is that you're not
> > > > > > > > > > > eating the same foods that you did during the
> > > > > > > > > > > 80's or even 90's. I sure ain't. Perhaps you've
> > > > > > > > > > > been in a coma for the last decade or so.
> > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back, the world has changed since you
> > > > > > > > > > > were out. For one thing, only old farts posting
> > > > > > > > > > > on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google-self-driving-
> > > > > > > > > > > car- waym o/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As far as what people ate a hundred years ago,
> > > > > > > > > technology certainly did change everything. The most
> > > > > > > > > important being our ability to bind nitrogen into a
> > > > > > > > > form that can be used as a fertilizer. It has been
> > > > > > > > > estimated that half the population of this planet are
> > > > > > > > > living because of this discovery.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock.
> > > > > > > > > Everything has changed from 50 years ago. Yesterday I
> > > > > > > > > cooked lemongrass chicken, made with boneless,
> > > > > > > > > skinless, chicken thighs. This form of chicken did
> > > > > > > > > not exist back in the 60's but it's trending these
> > > > > > > > > days. Back in the old days, we had saimin and sushi
> > > > > > > > > but we didn't have ramen or pho or sushi as it is
> > > > > > > > > served these days. We didn't have Thai or Vietnamese
> > > > > > > > > curry or Thai or Vietnamese anything. No Korean or
> > > > > > > > > Filipino foods either.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set
> > > > > > > > > out to change the way the people on this rock saw
> > > > > > > > > food. They succeeded and as a result, the fallout
> > > > > > > > > from that will change how people on the mainland will
> > > > > > > > > eat i.e., Hawaii will be at the forefront of foodie
> > > > > > > > > trends in N. America. These days, the kids are
> > > > > > > > > eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo
> > > > > > > > > boy!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making
> > > > > > > > food with nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass".
> > > > > > > > Can't you be more precise? You don't make a case for
> > > > > > > > nanobots by mentioning lemongrass.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw
> > > > > > > > fish since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's
> > > > > > > > old news. You write as if you're 20 years old and have
> > > > > > > > no experience of the world.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in
> > > > > > > Michigan in the 70's. Astounding!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No. But you contention that lemongrass is cutting edge
> > > > > > cuisine is simply misinformed. You live in a culinary
> > > > > > bubble.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not the one saying that I'm eating the same foods that I
> > > > > was 50 years ago. I'm saying that everything has changed.
> > > > > What the heck is your definition of "living in a culinary
> > > > > bubble?" My guess is that you live in a bubble of negativity.
> > > > > I'd hate to live in one of those.
> > > > >
> > > > > So you eat the same things that you did 50 years ago and
> > > > > lemongrass and eating raw fish is common in America. If you
> > > > > say so then it must be true - right?
> > > >
> > > > Lemongrass is grown here and exported. Raw fish is easy to
> > > > find in homes and restraunts.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > >
> > > How long has lemongrass been grown and exported where you live?
> > > How long has raw fish been easy to find in homes and restaurants
> > > on the mainland? If you live in Asia, the answer would be
> > > "forever." Not so on the mainland. Heck, I can't even find
> > > lemongrass in our stores. The reality is that a lot of the stuff
> > > on this rock is not found on the mainland.
> >
> > The American Indians ate certain types of raw fish before whiteman
> > came and definately the northern ones (Eskimo and Northern Tribes).
> > It was also common in other costal areas though some types are not
> > done due to nematodes.
> >
> > Get over lemongrass. It's not that great. They sell it from here
> > and have been doing so since about 1970. If you can't get it where
> > you are in fresh form, you aren't missing anything really.
> >
> > Keep in mind I lived on your 'rock' for 3 years.
> >
>
> You are correct, people have been eating raw fish for a long time.
> What's your point?
>
> You're the one that's so proud that her home sells and exports
> lemongrass. I have tried the fresh stuff and would never use it
> again. I have recommended that people not use the fresh stuff to make
> lemongrass chicken.
>
> This bit about how you're right and I'm wrong is tiresome. You may
> have lived here but you don't seem to know anything about poke. If
> you don't know a thing about the subject, don't lecture me about it.
> I have my ideas about things, you have your own. I can respect that.
> Put forth your own ideas and leave mine alone. Quit being so
> disrespectful.

Are you having a bad day? I made a one liner on the lemon grass then
you asked and i added we grow it here for export and it's not that
great stuff.

Dunno where you are in your head right now but i'm not one of the folks
who have ever lectured you about anything. I've not made any posts
about Poke other than I like it.

You are mixing me with someone else. Just drop it since you are not
apt to apologize to me for doing that.

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