On Sun, 1 Jan 2017 07:29:43 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 9:59:49 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2017 05:23:41 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 10:15:06 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:27:20 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> >> .. .
>> >> >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:07:03 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >>>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 03:20:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> >>>> > wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 12:28:52 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>> >> >>>>>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:16:30 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> > If sf and sheldon don't want cooking smells in the rest of
>> >> >>>>>> > their houses, might I suggest they cook better food and the
>> >> >>>>>> > smell won't bother them. ;-D
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> It's obvious that you don't entertain.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>It's not a party unless everybody is in the kitchen, even if
>> >> >>>>>they're just passing through to get to the beer.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Cindy Hamilton
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I don't do those kind of parties, never did. I don't invite guests to
>> >> >>>> rummage through my fridge, cupboards, or through any part of my home.
>> >> >>>> When I serve chilled drinks and ice I put out an an ice chest. I
>> >> >>>> never tell guests to make themselves at home... especially when I've
>> >> >>>> not been to their home.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>LOL, well...there you have it then! Nobody invites you to their home,
>> >> >>>which
>> >> >>>explains a lot.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Cheri
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Some do but some don't, those who live like you and would be too
>> >> >> embarrassed for anyone to see their pigsty. LOL
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Actually I don't do parties anymore, I'll invite up to two couples for
>> >> >> dinner is all. When there are a bunch that wants to get together I
>> >> >> suggest a restaurant, everyone can pay their own tab. Once they
>> >> >> realize they'll be paying their tab they decline... moochers can't
>> >> >> ever be my friends, unless they're wild critters.
>> >> >
>> >> >I was just kidding anyway. I think you have a beautiful set up where you
>> >> >live, and I hope your New Year is good and healthy! BTW, I think the
>> >> >restaurant idea is splendid.
>> >> >
>> >> >Cheri
>> >>
>> >> A restaurant works well when there's a group, no individual is put out
>> >> and has to foot the entire bill. Typically in summer we all gather at
>> >> the local golf course restaurant. Food is excellent, service
>> >> spectacular, very affordable, and views are breathtaking.
>> >> http://www.thunderhartgolf.com/
>> >> In winter we meet at a restaurant in Windham, either at the ski lodge
>> >> or somewhere in town.
>> >> http://www.windhammountain.com/
>> >> http://www.windhammountain.com/dinin...untain-dining/
>> >> I don't care to have a crowd in my home, nor do I want people I barely
>> >> know casing my home.
>> >
>> >Paranoid much? The last big party we had was my husband's co-workers
>> >and their wives. I don't know most of them from Adam's off ox.
>>
>> None of your husband's co-workers with their husbands?
>
>Thanks for reminding me that not all of the engineers at his
>workplace (or at mine) are male. But most of them are. I
>should have written "spouses" rather than "wives".

Where I worked things changed over the years to where the majority of
engineering/scientific staff were women. However in the skilled
trades there were very few women although there was an aggressive
attempt to take on female apprentices, however most dropped out within
the first year, only a small handful remained. Out of about 500
employees in the skilled trades I think no more than six were female.
I have no answer for why they dropped out as they were afforded every
opportunity for success... all I can figure is from how they arrived
dressed for work (like for an office environment) they didn't like
getting dirty, keeping their hair short, and ruining their manicure.
It's really not possible to work as a heavy equipment operator and
look like a cubicle worker, yet they were being trained to work in a
field that paid triple their previous office clerk occupation.
https://www.bnl.gov/about/

>> Seems where your husband works is against employing women... or you
>> don't permit your husband to socialize with female co-workers... talk
>> about paranoia.
>>
>> >> I don't mind a warm weather cook out but then
>> >> everyone stays outdoors.
>> >
>> >My layout has everybody going through the kitchen to get to the
>> >bathroom. We're sufficiently suburban that using the backyard
>> >is not an option.
>>
>> That makes no sense, surburbia is all about backyards.
>
>I thought my meaning was clear from context. We can't use the
>backyard as a bathroom. We have city water and sewerage.
>
>> My last house
>> was in the burbs, all homes on 1/4 acre lots. As for bathrooms all
>> were on cesspools so none could handle a crowd without risking a
>> backup that suddenly ended the party. Some neighbors would rent a
>> portapotty when they had a bunch of guests... I went the restaurant
>> route... I didn't think a portapotty in the driveway was very, um
>> hospitable. Now I live in a farming community, everyone is on septic
>> systems so people are very aware not to over burdon them. Farm people
>> don't think twice about using the woods, and not just guests, if they
>> happen to be outdoors homeowners use the woods too... it's usually a
>> much shorter walk to the trees and bushes than back to the house.
>>
>> And no, I don't want people I barely know traipsing all over my home.
>> Several years ago a co-worker I was friendly with was having a large
>> gathering for Thanksgiving. I volunteered to help with the cooking
>> which was much appreciated. Just as I was about to leave I used their
>> bathroom and there on the vanity was his wife's diamond engagement
>> ring in a small glass bowl. I called them over and apprised them to
>> put it away as the guests would be arriving momentarilly. I was told
>> that they were all good friends and family. I didn't stay as I was
>> only there to help cook. Needless to say the next day I was informed
>> that ring disappeared as did several other valuables from throughout
>> their home. I can recount several other similar events, even I had
>> things taken from my bathroom by guests, stupid items like shaving
>> gear, nail clippers, and nose hair scissors. Often people you think
>> you know very well are closet kleptomaniacs.
>>
>> My advice is when having guests to put all valuables out of sight lest
>> they become an attractive nuisance that will cause honest folk to
>> become a thief.
>
>We don't have valuables, except his guns (which are always locked
>away). I can't see one of our guests making off with the television
>or one of our cars. Apart from the sentimental value, even our
>wedding rings are worth at most a few hundred dollars. Less
>than half a troy ounce of 14-carat gold in both of them.

It's not the monetary value, it's the loss of their intrinsic value...
and people you think you know will definitely swipe your ordinary
rings if left out, same as someone lifted my nail clipper, scissors,
and a package of disposale razors. Had the person asked I would have
given them those things but when stolen it leaves a very bad feeling
and makes one wonder what else is missing.

>I was thinking about the last time we had people over (first
>Sunday in December). It was another couple and a woman
>whose boyfriend couldn't make it that night, so five of us
>for dinner. We prepared individual pizza crusts, and let
>everyone come in the kitchen and put whatever toppings on them
>they liked. A good time was had by all.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I don't call three guests a party. We have 2-4 guests often, with
more we suggest going out to eat. I enjoy intimate get togethers but
once there are more than six people they tend to pair up in their own
conversation and sometimes arguments ensue. I don't like being a host
to people who ignore me like I was the hired help and that's typically
what occurs once there're more than four. Once people begin to use my
home as though it were a public tavern then it's best we all meet at a
public tavern. Then when I'm being ignored by those I invited I'm not
in the least bit offended, then I'm a free agent with no duty to
entertain the no class clods I arrived with, I can always find someone
else at a public tavern to chat with, usually someone more interesting
and lovely to look at. My wife isn't bothered as we both know I'm
going home with her, and she also knows that young women are attracted
to me same as she was a quarter century ago. And she also enjoys the
company of young women, she had two sons but always wished for a
daughter. My wife doesn't enjoy the company of women her own age, she
says they are catty, envious, and all they do is sit in a chair... at
70 years old she's in better shape than most 40 year old women, she's
an avid skier (down hill & cross country, snowshoeing too), she rarely
takes a cart at the golf course, does distance bicycle riding
regularly, she can pedal 50 miles in a morning and then do gardening
all afternoon, and she engages in other physical activities such as
weight training and she can jump rope with any teenager. When she was
much younger she was a race walker and won many trophys. She knows I
wouldn't trade her in for two 40 year olds and I wouldn't, I'd be a
fool to and I'm no fool.