On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 13:38:25 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>On 2017-01-08 12:53 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:19:07 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>
>>> It was -17 C yesterday morning. Today is warmer at -13 C.
>>
>> Yes, that's considerably warmer 
>
>Perhaps you have to live in a climate like that to understand how much
>nice it seems at -13 after having had -17.
I have lived in a climate like that and I know that the difference
between -17 and -13 matters less than whether you have wind with that.