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On 4/6/2017 12:59 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/6/2017 12:33 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 10:59:39 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 11:04:17 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/6/2017 10:07 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 4/6/2017 4:10 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These islands sprang out of the middle of nowhere. Every plant and
>>>>>> animal here had to be introduced. Obviously, pineapple and taro was
>>>>>> not native to these islands because nothing is. Who cares? The
>>>>>> immigrants to these islands brought their foods and traditions when
>>>>>> they arrived and we embraced the peoples and their culture. Ain't
>>>>>> nobody telling anybody to go back where they came from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN1Ud0qbxPE#t=406s
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Shave ice is not indigenous? Who brought it?
>>>>
>>>> LOL Ed!
>>>>
>>>> The Hawaiian Islands sprung up as a result of volcanic activity on the
>>>> floor of the Pacific ocean. And of course, nothing natural ever grew
>>>> out of rich volcanic soil. Nope, no fruits, no plants. It was just a
>>>> bunch of rocks.
>>>
>>> There are still a lot of native species of plants, insects, and sea
>>> life (including freshwater fish) native to Hawaii. They morphed into
>>> species endemic only to Hawaii. Many are extinct or threatened
>>> (thanks to relatively new introduced species), but a few still exist.
>>> Not much in the way of mammals though. Those take much longer to
>>> evolve and/or discover and populate such young, remote islands.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endemi...waiian_Islands
>>>
>>> That that "endemic" species are even more strict than "native".
>>> Endemic species evolved in and are exclusive to a smaller region or
>>> area. While "native" are non-exclusive and usually evolved someplace
>>> else. Only some of that list are also "native". One could argue that
>>> everything is endemic, and nothing on the planet is truly native.
>>>
>>> -sw

>>
>> you forgot about the human species managing to get there. I am always
>> amazed at the bravery of humans setting off in a boat on a big body of
>> water and landing somewhere. I'm sure there are many that tried,
>> never made it and are forgotten, but still. Hawaii, Easter Island,
>> the Americas, etc.. Just wow!
>> Janet US
>>

> Couple of years ago there was something on TV about the islanders and
> navigation. They can instinctively travel hundreds of miles in open sea
> and find there way. Not even a compass.
>
> Think even the ships traveling the world a few hundred years ago. I
> have to wonder if any just got plain lost along the way and ended up on
> the wrong continent. .


You mean like Christopher Columbus? He set sail for China or someplace
in Asia. He thought he landed in India... oops! He called the Native
Americans "Indians". Or so I was taught in grade school.

Jill