"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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> On Thu 13 Apr 2017 05:50:25p, Cheri told us...
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>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:33:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
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>>>>> i would like gas too, but not available here. I was used to
>>>>> gas until we came here and I had to have one of thoose electric
>>>>> stoves with the bare element in the bottom of the oven, ugly
>>>>> metal rings on top. The enamel was far harder to keep clean
>>>>> than a glass top. the first glass top i bought in the early
>>>>> 80s, with self clean oven, felt i had died and gone to paradise
>>>>>
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>>>>I agree about the cleaning of electric (I'm talking about the old
>>>>electric though with the pull out elements, metal rings etc.,
>>>>really old) I hated that, so I had gas piped to the stove and
>>>>replaced the electric with a gas stovetop which I have been happy
>>>>with. For myself, I did prefer ovens with the bare element
>>>>because they heated faster and also when they did burn out, I
>>>>could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>> I found after i had it the warm up time is imperceptible big plus
>>> is no more burned oven cloths (i never seem to use the mitts)
>>> last night i decided to heat up some frozen squid rings and when
>>> i took them out, with the left hand only, they all slid off! So
>>> for that rare occasion the flat floor to the oven was great
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>> Yes, there are definite pluses in that case, which could happen to
>> me occasionally as well. Seriously, the new oven with the sealed
>> element seems to take forever to heat up, but maybe all new ovens
>> do, a good 15 to 20 minutes to reach 400, but I have gotten used
>> to turning it on well in advance now.
>>
>> Cheri
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> I also have one of those ovens with the sealed element. Mine has a
> pre-heat button to be pressed before pressing start, and the default
> temperature setting if not manually changed is 350 degrees. In pre-
> heat mode all heating elements (top, bottom, and convection) turn on
> until the target temperature is reached. At 350 degrees it takes
> perhaps 8 minutes. At 425 degreees, which I commonly use, it does
> take a good 15 minutes to reach target. I don't actually think
> that's unacceptable. IIRC, my old exposed element oven probably took
> just as long.

Mine doesn't have the pre-heat button, the last one did. My last oven heated
up within 8-10 minutes, this one takes at least 15, closer to 20. The
instructions on mine actually say that, exposed element heating time versus
sealed element, there is quite a difference even according to GE which they
say is normal. I don't care for that at all, but other than that, I like the
oven.

Cheri