On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:50:25 -0700, "Cheri" >
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>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:33:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
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>>>> i would like gas too, but not available here. I was used to gas until
>>>> we came here and I had to have one of thoose electric stoves with the
>>>> bare element in the bottom of the oven, ugly metal rings on top. The
>>>> enamel was far harder to keep clean than a glass top. the first glass
>>>> top i bought in the early 80s, with self clean oven, felt i had died
>>>> and gone to paradise
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>>>I agree about the cleaning of electric (I'm talking about the old electric
>>>though with the pull out elements, metal rings etc., really old) I hated
>>>that, so I had gas piped to the stove and replaced the electric with a gas
>>>stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself, I did prefer ovens with
>>>the bare element because they heated faster and also when they did burn
>>>out,
>>>I could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.
>>>
>>>Cheri
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>> I found after i had it the warm up time is imperceptible big plus is
>> no more burned oven cloths (i never seem to use the mitts) last night
>> i decided to heat up some frozen squid rings and when i took them out,
>> with the left hand only, they all slid off! So for that rare occasion
>> the flat floor to the oven was great
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>Yes, there are definite pluses in that case, which could happen to me
>occasionally as well. Seriously, the new oven with the sealed element seems
>to take forever to heat up, but maybe all new ovens do, a good 15 to 20
>minutes to reach 400, but I have gotten used to turning it on well in
>advance now.
>
>Cheri

i was using 400 for the calamari and i would estimate tops 5 mins to
heat up. While i waited i tore off some parchment paper for the pan,
put calamari on top, set out plate to warm and a fork. by then it was
good to go. mine is 11 years old now, might be good to check yours
out, but otoh if you're used to it, it's not really a national
emergency