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> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:50:25 -0700, "Cheri" >
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>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:33:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
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>>>>> i would like gas too, but not available here. I was used to gas until
>>>>> we came here and I had to have one of thoose electric stoves with the
>>>>> bare element in the bottom of the oven, ugly metal rings on top. The
>>>>> enamel was far harder to keep clean than a glass top. the first glass
>>>>> top i bought in the early 80s, with self clean oven, felt i had died
>>>>> and gone to paradise
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>>>>
>>>>I agree about the cleaning of electric (I'm talking about the old
>>>>electric
>>>>though with the pull out elements, metal rings etc., really old) I hated
>>>>that, so I had gas piped to the stove and replaced the electric with a
>>>>gas
>>>>stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself, I did prefer ovens
>>>>with
>>>>the bare element because they heated faster and also when they did burn
>>>>out,
>>>>I could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>> I found after i had it the warm up time is imperceptible big plus is
>>> no more burned oven cloths (i never seem to use the mitts) last night
>>> i decided to heat up some frozen squid rings and when i took them out,
>>> with the left hand only, they all slid off! So for that rare occasion
>>> the flat floor to the oven was great
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>>Yes, there are definite pluses in that case, which could happen to me
>>occasionally as well. Seriously, the new oven with the sealed element
>>seems
>>to take forever to heat up, but maybe all new ovens do, a good 15 to 20
>>minutes to reach 400, but I have gotten used to turning it on well in
>>advance now.
>>
>>Cheri
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> i was using 400 for the calamari and i would estimate tops 5 mins to
> heat up. While i waited i tore off some parchment paper for the pan,
> put calamari on top, set out plate to warm and a fork. by then it was
> good to go. mine is 11 years old now, might be good to check yours
> out, but otoh if you're used to it, it's not really a national
> emergency


The manual says the wait time of 15-20 minutes is normal with the sealed
element, and also 1 to 1-1/2 hours before cooling fan shuts off, which I
find excessive, but oh well.

Cheri

Cheri