dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 5:44:24 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > ...
> > On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 2:58:08 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 8:44:49 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know crap about Mexican cooking. If you believe that
> > > > > not understanding the rationale for mashed beans means I
> > > > > don't cook then you're either drunk or an idiot. I believe
> > > > > it's a combination of both. You're acting like an authority
> > > > > on refried beans but you cannot answer my simple, earnest,
> > > > > question. You obviously have never made this dish. This tells
> > > > > me that you're a liar and a poseur.
> > > > >
> > > > > No matter, I'm sufficiently interested in this question and
> > > > > will just go forth and make this simple dish. I'm going to
> > > > > make this Mexican style - with a shitload of oil. Otherwise,
> > > > > what's the point?
> > > > >
> > > > > ---
> > > > > I think it was more a way to use leftover beans and make them
> > > > > seem different. These days and in this country, this is
> > > > > usually not much of an issue but I should imagine in the old
> > > > > days, generating the heat needed to cook the beans could be
> > > > > costly, so they probably cooked a lot at once.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's also a lot easier to scoop up some mashed beans in a
> > > > > tortilla than it is whole beans. Mashed in a tortilla can be
> > > > > eaten out of hand, so they are portable. Try that with whole
> > > > > beans and you'll be wearing them.
> > > >
> > > > It might be that the Mexicans serve refried beans at every meal
> > > > although making it will take hours. OTOH, that might just be my
> > > > gringo notion. What's the real story?
> > >
> > > The real story is they were cheap and effective for carbs and
> > > proteins and cooked in largish batches then the broken ones were
> > > mashed with fats to provide extra energy. They would think you
> > > silly for eating something as bland as rice all the time ;-)
> > > Heck, your McDonalds adds rice to the breakfast plates!
> > >
> > > Carol
> > >
> > > --
> >
> > Have some respect for rice - it has helped most of humanity survive
> > and flourish since the beginning. I doubt that Mexicans would feel
> > it silly that Asians eat rice or Americans potatoes. I can believe
> > that someone on this newsgroup would say such a silly thing.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Mexicans do eat rice. Pasta too. In some parts of Mexico they eat
> > either plain white rice or rice with a few veggies or cilantro in
> > it. It's also put in various soups as is pasta. I don't think Carol
> > knows what she is talking about. They only mashed broken beans? I
> > don't think so.
> >
> > ---
> > As it goes, high carbohydrate food sources i.e., starches have been
> > important for the survival of the human race. Whether you're
> > talking about rice, beans, potatoes, poi, pasta, et al., it might
> > be that without the high energy availability that cooked starches
> > provide, we might still be living in caves. You are correct that
> > McDonald's serves rice in the morning. What's your point?
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Mexicans do eat potatoes too. I got the idea of putting jalapenos
> > in my mashed potatoes from Pati's Mexican table. She said this was
> > a favorite after school snack. Her grandma would make those and
> > some kind of breaded, fried meat patty. I want to say that it was
> > similar to chicken fried steak, but it has been some time since I
> > saw that episode. There are Mexican potato salad recipes too.
> >
> > What I learned about McDonalds is that different parts of the
> > country sell different things. We made one cross country move and
> > stopped at McDonalds for lunch almost every day. Thankfully they
> > had a salad on the menu at that point in time that almost every
> > location sold, and it was one that I liked. I saw hot dogs at one
> > and soup at another one.
>
> I'm soaking a pot of pintos and will cook them in some porky water
> along with some pork fat. These refried beans will not be wanting of
> pork! Hoo ha!

Grin, remember to boil the pintos for a bit (45 mins?) before reducing
the temp.

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