On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:22:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 6/28/2017 3:45 PM, lucretia wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 13:22:49 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/28/2017 12:15 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:13:28 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/27/2017 2:04 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing scary about it, just don't need a lot of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly, Cheri. I don't need everything to be connected. In this case
>>>>> I'm talking about smart phones and "connected" appliances.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would I need to be able to turn the lights on (or off) in my house
>>>>> via a phone? If I'm going out and I know it will be dark when I return,
>>>>> I switch on a lamp before I leave. No need to turn on lights using an
>>>>> app on a phone.
>>>>
>>>> Living in a house I might like to turn different lights on and off if
>>>> I was away, to make it appear I was not away.
>>>>>
>>> I used timers that turned the lights on and off in the bedroom and
>>> living room when I was away. Just plug it into the electric socket and
>>> plug the lamp into the timer. Set the timer. On at dusk, off at
>>> bedtime. On again in the morning, off during the day.
>>
>> I usethose for convenience but I am referring to a house, if you want
>> potential burglars to think someone is at home, the lights need to be
>> different every night. You can't do that with timers.
>>>
>>
>
>Sure you can. Mine varies on and off by 30 minutes either way. Many
>others available. Some vary each day, others do random. You can get
>timers that compensate for the length of day during the year too.
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Enover-TS18-P...le+light+timer

The LED lights I use don't need a timer. they go off at dawn and come
on at dusk. Inside I have LED night lights that come on at dusk an go
off at dawn and only use 1/2 watt, and are far brighter than an 8 watt
incondecscent, and are good for 15 years.