On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 16:10:51 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 23:03:55 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 5:22:26 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>> On 7/13/2017 8:25 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> > Janet wrote:
>>> >> says...
>>> >>> And my housemates love me so much as their landlord they gave ME
>>> >> their July 2017 rent checks rather than our cheap Chinese landlord! (I
>>> >> just deposited those checks too, today!)
>>> >>
>>> >> Just wait till the Chinese OWNER of the property finds out HIS
>>> >> tenants didn't pay HIM their rent this month.
>>> >
>>> > I was thinking the same thing. John is not the owner yet and the chinese
>>> > owner gets the rent until then.
>>> >
>>> John is delusional if he thinks he's already their landlord. He's not;
>>> they aren't John's tenants. What part of [he] doesn't own the house is
>>> so hard for John to grasp?
>>>
>>> > This really does sound like a fail-fail situation. Maybe John should
>>> > stop right now, swallow his losses and go look for a better house to
>>> > buy. This entire deal with all the future repairs sounds so not right to
>>> > me.
>>> >
>>> > No sane person would ever fix up a house until after closing and they
>>> > own it. The chinese landlord is probably loving all this insane nonsense.
>>> >
>>> > John...he could even cancel the sale after you spend half your fortune
>>> > fixing up HIS house. Wake up.
>>> >
>>> He sure could. You can bet he's keeping an eye on everything that's
>>> going on in that house. In fact, as the legal landlord, he has every
>>> right to enter and look around the property. He could take one look at
>>> these improvements and decide he doesn't want to sell. Until closing,
>>> he can back out at any time.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>Oh and he does whenever he wants. But he's out of town right now.
>>WE have to do these things to close the sale

There's no WE, it's just YOU... performing a criminal act while the
owner is out of town.

>>and then he and his partner get $108,000 cash.
>> the sellers back out after I've paid to have all this occupancy permit inspection stuff brought
>> to code I'm sure I'd have a very good case for a civil lawsuit against them. They signed the
>>le contract too after all!
>
>But isn't it strange to collect rent for a property you don't own yet?

Not strange, try Highly Illegal... John can end up in prison for
Conversion.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...com/conversion
Depending on amount, Grand Larceny.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti.../grand+larceny

And pleading to the court you are bi-polar is no defence.... taking
rent that doesn't belong to you makes you a thief, and the tenants
giving their rent to you makes them guilty of abeting a thief, same as
driving the get away car for a bank robber. The tenants are legally
responsible to pay their rent to the property owner... if then the
property owner wants to give John that rent money he can, as a gift
or in a separate contract from the real estate sales contract. Law
governing real estate sales contracts are very specific, they must be
in writing and they cannot embody any side business such as
contracting for their tenants, that would make John and the Chinaman
slave traders.

When I bought my present property there wre tenants in the rental
cottage, however they could not be legally mentioned in our sales
contract. I had to negotiate a separate agreement with the tenants
after purchase but all they'd agree to was a month to month tenacy
agreement, which is all I'd agree to... after three months they moved,
and good riddance. And now there's no more rental cottage, it was
replaced by two lovely mulberry trees.

Harvested the first crop from our veggie garden today, three zukes..
trimmed away a few critter bites and cooked them in butter with
seasoning, couldn't be fresher... soon a lot more.