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Irma's big blow to Florida's crops
On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 06:10:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 7:23:36 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 03:10:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
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>> >On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 7:02:56 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:58:27 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> >> wrote:
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>> >> >On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:47:35 -0300, wrote:
>> >> >snip
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>Maybe I sound very cynical but our gas has already zoomed up about 40
>> >> >>cents a litre since Harvey. I understand the Texan refineries are
>> >> >>back up and working but our gas has not dropped but then, since we get
>> >> >>our gas from Venezuela, it's nine tenths of my cynicism. If you see
>> >> >>what I mean.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>If veggies and fruit are now going to be higher than last winter
>> >> >>(which was extraordinary price-wise) deal me out, I can live without
>> >> >>them if need be 
>> >> >
>> >> >I don't know about supplying Nova Scotia, but there is a major
>> >> >pipeline going all the way north from Texas that was damaged with
>> >> >Harvey. This pipeline is a biggy and they are not back on line yet.
>> >> >Is you Venezuelan oil off loaded from a tanker directly to you folks
>> >> >or is it delivered some other way? Don't know, just wondering.
>> >> >Apparently Florida off loads from a tanker to trucks. I just assumed
>> >> >that all oil delivered to N. America was delivered through pipes and
>> >> >then trucked to depots.
>> >> >Janet US
>> >>
>> >> I really don't know Janet, I just know that's where our oil comes from
>> >> but we get the price hikes. As I said, I am cynical. No matter what
>> >> our prices seem to soar whenever there is something like this and I
>> >> just figure, so what's new?
>> >
>> ><https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-31/harvey-s-impact-on-world-oil-market-underlines-growing-u-s-role>
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>> >Cindy Hamilton
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>> I didn't watch it all but that's what I figure, traders, opportunists
>> etc all get in the middle there to gouge us.
>> Cynic.
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>The point is that even if you get your oil from Venezuela,
>the world oil market is responsive to disturbances anywhere
>within it. Oil is sold wherever it will command the highest
>price, which tends to raise the price everywhere, as supplies
>tighten.
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>Prices might go up during a shortage, but they drop during
>a glut. Gasoline was $4.58 a gallon in the U.S. in 2008;
>yesterday I paid $2.42, even with the Hurricane Harvey
>bump.
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>Cindy Hamilton
>
>Cindy Hamilton
Meant to say also, have you noticed where you are that gas does a jump
just before holiday weekends? Always does here.
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