On 10/4/2017 9:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-10-04 6:50 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 03:36:39 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Lots of couples with children in the Netherlands are doing fine
>> without being married. Also legally. Even though I'm married myself, I
>> do find it rather bourgeois in this day and age.
>>
>
> I don't have any issues with unmarried couples having children. They are
> likely as capable of raising kids as any married couple, and maybe more
> than some.Â* I do have concerns about single young women having children
> and no means to support them.Â* The cost and hassle of day care makes it
> difficult for them to finish their education and to get and keep a
> decent job. I have to admit that there are the odd exceptional cases
> where the do better themselves and the kids do well, but far too many of
> them get stuck in a cycle of poverty.
>

Yes, that is where problems occur. The tax payer is often paying for
both kid and parent.

OTOH, I know of one young lady that has a child and has a good job and
can easily pay her way. The kid though, is really spending most of his
time with grandparents. Not easy for a 75 year old woman chasing a 3
year old.

Now you may be wondering about the age difference. Fact is, the
daughter is actually the granddaughter, adopted when her son got a woman
pregnant.