>>>>> Eh, I wouldn't go that far. I love a good Trappist ale. Aventinus of
any variety just doesn't do it for me.

Aventinus and the Schneider eisbock (as well as the sumptious Kulmbacher
dunkel eisbock) aren't in the same flavor-compexity league of tripels and
the Westvleterens. I like weizenbocks and doppelbocks--and I'm even lucky
enough to have some fresh U.S. domestic variations in the fridge thanks to
Capitol brewery--but I think you are right that they don't have the same
massive waves of richness and gothic cathedral spirals of spicy yeasty
aromatic complexity that the great Belgians do.