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Cheese shop visit
"cshenk" > wrote in message
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> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
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>> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>> >>"cshenk" > wrote in message
>> > > news
>> >>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>> >>> > On 11/1/2017 6:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> >>>>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>> >>>>> > On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> >>>>> > > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>>> > > > It is difficult for then spouse and children but in
>> >>different >>> > > > ways. Yes, there is the worry but also having
>> to >>uproot and >>> > > > move repeatedly. Children starting new
>> schools >>again and >>> > > > again. Spouses having to find a new
>> job. I had to >>retire from >>> > > > mine. And it's hard to find an
>> high paying job >>when you have >>> > > > a military spouse. The
>> employer knows that >>you might leave >>> > > > at any time. Most of
>> us had to make do with >>minimum wage or >>> > > > worse, part time
>> at best. >>>>> > > >
>> >>>>> > > > Then having to make new friends, finding your way around
>> in >>a >>> > > > new city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods
>> could >>be a >>> > > > challenge. Food on Cape Cod is vastly
>> different than >>here. >>> > > > Some things were the same of course
>> but many were >>not. >>> > > > Different brands, not much in the way
>> of Mexican food. >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference
>> higher >>>>> > > than a disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't
>> know that, >>too >>> > > bad.
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Carol, the difference is Julie was not in the military. I
>> don't >>>>> > know if she knows or cares about military hiring
>> preferences >>when >>> > it comes to grade or disability. She worked
>> at K-Mart. >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can
>> sure >>>>> > relate to the constantly moving as a child. No fun.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Can't speak to the different brands thing. I was a kid, not
>> the >>>>> > spouse who did the shopping. I do know my mother didn't
>> look >>for >>> > Mexican food. 
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Jill
>> >>> > >
>> >>>>> Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military. She lacked
>> >>>>> knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a military
>> >>>>> spouse.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > Maybe she didn't want to. From what I recall she worked a lot
>> of >>> > years at K-Mart, long enough to be entitled to a pension
>> (assuming >>> > they're still in business when she hits official
>> retirement age). >>> >
>> >>> > Jill
>> > > >
>> >>> Maybe not, but she had some chances that sadly she didnt know
>> about.
>> > >
>> > > No Carol, I didn't. We did have a bulletin board with all job
>> > > listings on it. There were rarely any listings.
>> > > >
>> >>> Here's a turn down letter I got:
>> > > >
>> >>> Notification
>> >>> Date: 9/5/2017 10:50:47 AM
>> >>> From: USA Staffing
>> >>> Subject: Notice of Results and Referral for PROGRAM ANALYST,
>> >>> ST-10040679-17-MS
>> >>> Dear Carol xxxxx,
>> > > >
>> >>> This refers to the application you recently submitted to this
>> office >>> for the position below:
>> >>> Position Title: PROGRAM ANALYST
>> >>> Pay Plan/Series/Grade: GS-0343-13
>> >>> Hiring Office: 00076 NAVAL EDUCATION AND TRAINING COMMAND
>> >>> Location: Dam Neck Naval Facility, Virginia Beach, Virginia
>> > > >
>> >>> Your rating is:
>> >>> Eligible for the following position or positions:
>> >>> €¢ GS-0343-13
>> > > >
>> >>> The following is your referral status for the position or
>> positions >>> to which you applied:
>> >>> €¢ You have not been referred to the hiring manager for position
>> >>> GS-0343-13 in Dam Neck Naval Facility, Virginia Beach, Virginia
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> >>> Please Note:
>> > > >
>> >>> We have received your application to be considered for this
>> >>> position. You received an eligible best rating based on your
>> >>> self-assessed responses to the assessment questionnaire; however,
>> >>> there were a sufficient number of best qualified military spouse
>> >>> candidates that are entitled to Military Spouse Preference. By
>> law, >>> best qualified military spouses who comply with competitive
>> >>> recruitment procedures are entitled to initial selection
>> >>> consideration.
>> > > >
>> >>> If you have any questions regarding this notice, contact DON
>> >>> Employment Information Center at or 800-378-4559.
>> > > >
>> >>> Thank you for your interest in Federal employment with
>> >>> theDepartment of the Navy.
>> > > >
>> >>> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS EMAIL MESSAGE. IT IS AUTOMATICALLY
>> >>> GENERATED. For additional information, please refer to the job
>> >>> opportunity announcement for this position.
>> >>> ---------
>> > > >
>> >>> It turns out none of the spouses had actual qualifications for the
>> >>> job so now they are on second set and I am being scheduled for an
>> >>> interview. Note this isnt the same job as the one I turned down to
>> >>> be a GS9 teaching the person the job. It is however very simular.
>> > >
>> > > Not even sure what the gibberish even means. I think I need Bruce
>> > > to explain it.
>> >
>> > It's ok Julie. It's unfortunate more military spouses do not know
>> > how it works.
>> >
>> > You do not need Bruce to explain it. What it means is equally
>> > qualified candidates were not interviewed because military spouse
>> > candidates had to be interviewed first. If all of them fail at
>> > interview, it then rolls down to others.
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>> I DO need Bruce to explain it to me. I DO!
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> Ok, here's the gist. A military spouse if there are enough that
> qualify for the job, has to be interviewed first so they can support an
> active duty member. Once retired, that active duty member who may well
> be sole support for the family, (including spouse), has to wait at the
> back of the line until the spouses are interviewed. We only get seen
> if none of them after interview can be seen as able to do the job.
I understand that but... Wouldn't the spouse have to be qualified to do that
job? Example, here we have GS positions with the Coast Guard for radar. How
many spouses would be able to do that?
I think the reason that this wasn't a known fact anywhere that I lived was
because there just weren't any or very few positions available for GS to
begin with.
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