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Cheese shop visit
Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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> "cshenk" > wrote in message
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> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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> > >
> >>"cshenk" > wrote in message
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> >>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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> >>> >
> >>>>"cshenk" > wrote in message
> >>> > news
> >>>>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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> >>>>> > On 11/1/2017 6:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >>>>>>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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> >>>>>>> > On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >>>>>>> > > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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> >>>>>>> > > >
> >>>>>>> > > > It is difficult for then spouse and children but in
> >>>>different >>> > > > ways. Yes, there is the worry but also having
> >>to >>uproot and >>> > > > move repeatedly. Children starting new
> >>schools >>again and >>> > > > again. Spouses having to find a new
> >>job. I had to >>retire from >>> > > > mine. And it's hard to find an
> >>high paying job >>when you have >>> > > > a military spouse. The
> >>employer knows that >>you might leave >>> > > > at any time. Most of
> >>us had to make do with >>minimum wage or >>> > > > worse, part time
> >>at best. >>>>> > > >
> >>>>>>> > > > Then having to make new friends, finding your way around
> >>in >>a >>> > > > new city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods
> >>could >>be a >>> > > > challenge. Food on Cape Cod is vastly
> >>different than >>here. >>> > > > Some things were the same of
> course >>but many were >>not. >>> > > > Different brands, not much
> in the way >>of Mexican food. >>>>> > >
> >>>>>>> > > Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference
> >>higher >>>>> > > than a disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't
> >>know that, >>too >>> > > bad.
> >>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > Carol, the difference is Julie was not in the military. I
> >>don't >>>>> > know if she knows or cares about military hiring
> >>preferences >>when >>> > it comes to grade or disability. She
> worked >>at K-Mart. >>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can
> >>sure >>>>> > relate to the constantly moving as a child. No fun.
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > Can't speak to the different brands thing. I was a kid, not
> >>the >>>>> > spouse who did the shopping. I do know my mother didn't
> >>look >>for >>> > Mexican food. 
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > Jill
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>>>> Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military. She
> lacked >>>>>>> knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a
> military >>>>>>> spouse.
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > Maybe she didn't want to. From what I recall she worked a lot
> >>of >>> > years at K-Mart, long enough to be entitled to a pension
> >>(assuming >>> > they're still in business when she hits official
> >>retirement age). >>> >
> >>>>> > Jill
> >>> > >
> >>>>> Maybe not, but she had some chances that sadly she didnt know
> > > about.
> >>> >
> >>> > No Carol, I didn't. We did have a bulletin board with all job
> >>> > listings on it. There were rarely any listings.
> >>> > >
> >>>>> Here's a turn down letter I got:
> >>> > >
> >>>>> Notification
> >>>>> Date: 9/5/2017 10:50:47 AM
> >>>>> From: USA Staffing
> >>>>> Subject: Notice of Results and Referral for PROGRAM ANALYST,
> >>>>> ST-10040679-17-MS
> >>>>> Dear Carol xxxxx,
> >>> > >
> >>>>> This refers to the application you recently submitted to this
> >>office >>> for the position below:
> >>>>> Position Title: PROGRAM ANALYST
> >>>>> Pay Plan/Series/Grade: GS-0343-13
> >>>>> Hiring Office: 00076 NAVAL EDUCATION AND TRAINING COMMAND
> >>>>> Location: Dam Neck Naval Facility, Virginia Beach, Virginia
> >>> > >
> >>>>> Your rating is:
> >>>>> Eligible for the following position or positions:
> >>>>> €¢ GS-0343-13
> >>> > >
> >>>>> The following is your referral status for the position or
> >>positions >>> to which you applied:
> >>>>> €¢ You have not been referred to the hiring manager for
> position >>>>> GS-0343-13 in Dam Neck Naval Facility, Virginia Beach,
> Virginia >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>>>> Please Note:
> >>> > >
> >>>>> We have received your application to be considered for this
> >>>>> position. You received an eligible best rating based on your
> >>>>> self-assessed responses to the assessment questionnaire;
> however, >>>>> there were a sufficient number of best qualified
> military spouse >>>>> candidates that are entitled to Military Spouse
> Preference. By >>law, >>> best qualified military spouses who comply
> with competitive >>>>> recruitment procedures are entitled to initial
> selection >>>>> consideration.
> >>> > >
> >>>>> If you have any questions regarding this notice, contact DON
> >>>>> Employment Information Center at or
> 800-378-4559. >>> > >
> >>>>> Thank you for your interest in Federal employment with
> >>>>> theDepartment of the Navy.
> >>> > >
> >>>>> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS EMAIL MESSAGE. IT IS AUTOMATICALLY
> >>>>> GENERATED. For additional information, please refer to the job
> >>>>> opportunity announcement for this position.
> >>>>> ---------
> >>> > >
> >>>>> It turns out none of the spouses had actual qualifications for
> the >>>>> job so now they are on second set and I am being scheduled
> for an >>>>> interview. Note this isnt the same job as the one I
> turned down to >>>>> be a GS9 teaching the person the job. It is
> however very simular. >>> >
> >>> > Not even sure what the gibberish even means. I think I need
> Bruce >>> > to explain it.
> > > >
> >>> It's ok Julie. It's unfortunate more military spouses do not know
> >>> how it works.
> > > >
> >>> You do not need Bruce to explain it. What it means is equally
> >>> qualified candidates were not interviewed because military spouse
> >>> candidates had to be interviewed first. If all of them fail at
> >>> interview, it then rolls down to others.
> > >
> > > I DO need Bruce to explain it to me. I DO!
> >
> > Ok, here's the gist. A military spouse if there are enough that
> > qualify for the job, has to be interviewed first so they can
> > support an active duty member. Once retired, that active duty
> > member who may well be sole support for the family, (including
> > spouse), has to wait at the back of the line until the spouses are
> > interviewed. We only get seen if none of them after interview can
> > be seen as able to do the job.
>
> I understand that but... Wouldn't the spouse have to be qualified to
> do that job? Example, here we have GS positions with the Coast Guard
> for radar. How many spouses would be able to do that?
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> I think the reason that this wasn't a known fact anywhere that I
> lived was because there just weren't any or very few positions
> available for GS to begin with.
There are 7 here open that seem to require no more than an associates
in accounting.
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