Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 10:52:44 UTC+1 schrieb dsi1:
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 11:07:29 PM UTC-10, sanne wrote:
> >
> > Ovens still are not standard in Korean households, the manufacturers just
> > don't have (or didn't; how old is your oven?) enough experience yet.
> > The best Korean teacher we had to learn the language brought a German
> > stove with her when she returned to Korea.
> >
> > Bye, Sanne.
>
> I guess that means that the Koreans have very small apartments like the
> Japanese? They don't have much in the way of ovens either. What they do
> have is small broilers for grilling fish. I wish I had one of those in
> my oven.

Most places are small, but they do have ondol or ondol mats for
sleeping - floor heating. And they have small gas cookers with gas-cans.
Those are really great; I have two of them but mostly use them when
making Feuerzangenbowle or barbecue at the table.
And rice cookers that are even used for baking cheesecake. I do much of my
cooking in one of those (a 10-cup-version) - that one doesn't talk or has
a pressure mode (we have one of the latter, too - but it's tiny; I prefer
my large pressure-cooker), but it works like a slow cooker in some aspects.
Only cook on high until its content tend to burn, then it switches to
"keep warm" - ideal for sugo, porkolt, risotto and the like. And even rice...
;-)

> Oddly enough, one of Hawaii's most beloved singers was born and raised
> in Germany. When she arrived here in 1980, she was determined to learn
> the language and culture. That she did. She has been a associate
> professor of Hawaiian languages at the University of Hawaii and an
> award winning singer. It's a most unlikely story. That's the way it
> is on this tiny rock. If you embrace the culture, you will be accepted.

Same in Korea - I don't speak much Korean (my husband is much better at it),
but we share the interest in Korean culture and manners - one of the first
books we purchased when we spent our first vacation there was "Ugly
Americans - Ugly Koreans", a bilingual book pointing out the differences
in behavior that are unnerving or seem rude even to the other culture.
This small book was outdated in some aspects even back then - but only in
Seoul among younger people; in the country, smaller cities and towns, even
in Busan and among elder people, our respect for Korean manners is much
appreciated. Same with our interest in culture and language - a few words,
and everybody praises your knowledge of the language...
We always ate where the Koreans ate; look for the at lunchtime crowded
places and eat there afterwards or next time before rush-hour.
Often, we were the only westerners who ever had showed up there -
"You American?" - "No, I'm German." (in Korean, of course... ;-))
We never stayed at fancy hotels - the motels were clean, the staff
friendly, we had bathrooms with at least showers to our own, fridge,
hot-and-cold water dispensers, ac, TV,... for around 30$ for 2...

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MKqcAkZKgw

But I didn't see her talk, she always had that guitar in her hands!

Bye, Sanne.