On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:23:33 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 1/11/2018 12:16 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:13:36 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>> On 2018-01-11 10:03 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> That was Van Gogh.
>>>>
>>> *Not* pronounced Van "Go"! :-)
>>
>> No, preferably not And not "Gof" either.
>>
>I can only pronounce it properly when I have a bad cold...

Yes, Dutch from the west ("Holland") and the north pronounce it like
they have a cold or are grinding rocks. Dutch from the south pronounce
it much more gently.