On 1/11/2018 2:28 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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> "S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
> On 1/11/2018 12:16 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:13:36 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>> On 2018-01-11 10:03 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> That was Van Gogh.
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>>> *Not* pronounced Van "Go"! :-)
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>> No, preferably not And not "Gof" either.
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> I can only pronounce it properly when I have a bad cold...
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> I've never had any problem with it, but then I can say loch properly too

Well, so can I, but van Gogh goes _far_ beyond the ch in loch!