On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:21:37 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/30/2018 4:01 PM, Broce wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> If more women felt that way, overpopulation could be solved.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh??? Is the overpopulation all virgin birth?????
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Birth in general.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then it is not up to 'women' to solve it alone? Could it also be men
>>>>>>> should stay zipped up??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course. But y'all were talking about how painful child birth is and
>>>>>> I said it's a shame it doesn't discourage more women from having
>>>>>> children (esp. in overpopulated poor countries). That doesn't apply to
>>>>>> men.
>>>>>
>>>>> In those countries abstinence would be the only possible way - that
>>>>> should apply to both, not just the woman.
>>>>
>>>> What I said wasn't about man against woman. I don't see everything in
>>>> those terms.
>>>
>>> Then why say "If more women felt that way, overpopulation could be
>>> solved."
>>
>> Most women want children at some point in their lives. If child birth
>> was 5 times more painful, many women might not want them anymore.
>>
>For some young girls and guys, it is a status symbol. Real men have
>fathered a few babies with different mothers and the girls think it is
>OK to have them for them.
>
>A younger woman I know was often asked by some coworkers why she didn't
>have a baby yet. They thought it was normal, marriage not needed.

It also depends on one's social background. A Dutch football player
fathered two children in 3 months with 2 different women and didn't
blink an eye. "Yeah, so?"