On 1/31/2018 1:26 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 31-Jan-2018, wrote:
>
>> On 1/29/2018 10:15 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 1/29/2018 10:10 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 11:36:00 AM UTC-10, U.S.
>>>> Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually,ÂÂ* If you are lucky, you can still get buttermilk
>>>>> as a
>>>>> by-product of churning butter.ÂÂ* Otherwise, as you say, it
>>>>> is a
>>>>> cultured product.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> It makes perfect sense to call the liquid left after making
>>>> butter
>>>> "buttermilk." I've never had it nor have I seen such a thing
>>>> in
>>>> stores. My guess is that butter producers would have tons of
>>>> that
>>>> stuff on hand. What the heck do they do with it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> They sell it to people that want to make pancakes.
>>>
>>> Good for soaking chicken parts in for fried chicken.ÂÂ* Some
>>> people drink
>>> it but I never could.
>>
>> My father loved buttermilk as a beverage. I never could stand
>> to drink
>> it. Yes, it makes a nice addition to chicken or fish batter.
>> It's also
>> a good addition to cornbread.
>>
>> I don't usually have buttermilk on hand so I do the vinegar in
>> milk
>> trick Dave mentioned. I've used buttermilk powder in the past
>> when baking.
> Interesting to me is the number of people on RFC who have
> experienced "real" buttermilk. With the exception of a couple of
> folks, I believe most hear are around my age or younger. I have
> never seen "real" buttermilk, only cultured. My memories go back
> at least until the very early 1950s, I lived in a rural
> community, with one set of grandparents farmers, the other ran a
> general store that catered to farmers in a really rural area.
> Buttermilk always meant the thick cultured buttermilk, as today.
>
>
> The general store sold quite a few quarts of buttermilk each
> week. I was somewhat more aware than other children might have
> been as I rode along with my father regularly as he gathered the
> "goods" to delivery to my grandparents for sale in their store.
> One of my favorite stops was "the creamery" for Kentucky Maid
> dairy products.
>
> Both of my "store" grandparents drank buttermilk and a favorite
> treat for them was to crumble leftover cornbread in a cup or bowl
> and pour buttermilk over it and eat it with a spoon. Anytime a
> family member had a sore throat, (cultured) buttermilk was the
> "medicine" offered.
>
> If my farmer grandparents had been dairy farmers, I still might
> not have been exposed to "real" buttermilk. I don't recall any
> dairy farmers processing their own milk in the early 50s, they
> were selling the whole milk to local dairies and the only dairy
> in our area sold cultured buttermilk.
>
> I don't supposed I missed much; cultured buttermilk does a great
> job for all the things I want buttermilk to do. Plus, it is
> nutritionally very good for me.
>
That's wonderful!

Jill