Ophelia > wrote:
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> "Jinx the Minx" wrote in message news >
> cshenk > wrote:
>> Jinx the Minx wrote:
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>>> Ophelia > wrote:
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>>>> "Fruitiest of Fruitcakes" wrote in message
>>>> news.com...
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Nov 2018, Gary wrote
>>>> (in article >):
>>>>
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The flavor is wonderful! At first bite it reminds me of the honey
>>> whole >>> wheat bread that I normally make. And that's weird because
>>> there is no >>> honey
>>>>>> or whole wheat in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting because lately I've been buying (and enjoying)
>>>>> 'Nature's Own' Honey Wheat Bread. Just a toasted piece of that
>>>>> with butter is a very tasty treat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, congrats on your bread victory!
>>>>
>>>> I have been baking my own bread for 25 years.
>>>>
>>>> In my experience, the dough needs to be as soft as possible, but
>>>> just enough flour to stop it really sticking to your fingers.
>>>>
>>>> Flour on your hands will help.
>>>>
>>>> If the dough is hard to knead, then it will not rise as much as it
>>>> should. Yeasts are not superhuman.
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> My days of kneading my own dough are past. Arthritis in my
>>>> shoulder and hands put paid to that I had been making my own
>>>> since I was a teenager. These days it is either the machine or no
>>>> knead bread. I won't buy bread though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Depressing, isnt it? Ive made bread a few times, and always looked
>>> to future days when Id have the time to make it more often, and
>>> experiment making different types. Sadly, my bad hands took over
>>> before I ever got that chance I had been waiting for. No kneading for
>>> me, either.
>>
>> Thats why I use a bread machine. I am limited by what it does in some
>> ways, but it works well. I've been making almost all our bread since
>> 2001.
>>
>> I have about 35% reduction in feeling and strength in my right hand and
>> 15% roughly same in left hand. Both are due to spinal issues. I
>> really started making bread *after that*.
>>
>> Some people will tell you that 'unless you hand knead the bread' it
>> doesnt count. Bull hocky. You can do just as fine at being happy with
>> your own produced breads as anyone else. The recipies are a little
>> different with a bread machine, but only due to a static rise time
>> making that needed.
>>
>> I make no apologies for using a machine to do the parts I cannot.
>>
>
> I do have an old bread machine from back when they were the newest hot
> gadget to get. I used a few times but didnt really care for the end
> result. Perhaps I just need to experiment with it more. Likewise with
> the no-knead breads.
> ===
>
> On good days I use it just for the knead. Works ok
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I think I might bring it out of the pantry and give it a whirl! The weather
has gotten so cold and snow season has begun€”fresh bread alongside a bowl
of soup is a match made in heaven.