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>>>>> "Fruitiest of Fruitcakes" wrote in message
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>>>>> On 28 Nov 2018, Gary wrote
>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The flavor is wonderful! At first bite it reminds me of the honey
>>>> whole >>> wheat bread that I normally make. And that's weird because
>>>> there is no >>> honey
>>>>>>> or whole wheat in it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting because lately I've been buying (and enjoying)
>>>>>> 'Nature's Own' Honey Wheat Bread. Just a toasted piece of that
>>>>>> with butter is a very tasty treat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, congrats on your bread victory!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been baking my own bread for 25 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my experience, the dough needs to be as soft as possible, but
>>>>> just enough flour to stop it really sticking to your fingers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Flour on your hands will help.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the dough is hard to knead, then it will not rise as much as it
>>>>> should. Yeasts are not superhuman.
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> My days of kneading my own dough are past. Arthritis in my
>>>>> shoulder and hands put paid to that I had been making my own
>>>>> since I was a teenager. These days it is either the machine or no
>>>>> knead bread. I won't buy bread though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Depressing, isnt it? Ive made bread a few times, and always looked
>>>> to future days when Id have the time to make it more often, and
>>>> experiment making different types. Sadly, my bad hands took over
>>>> before I ever got that chance I had been waiting for. No kneading for
>>>> me, either.
>>>
>>> Thats why I use a bread machine. I am limited by what it does in some
>>> ways, but it works well. I've been making almost all our bread since
>>> 2001.
>>>
>>> I have about 35% reduction in feeling and strength in my right hand and
>>> 15% roughly same in left hand. Both are due to spinal issues. I
>>> really started making bread *after that*.
>>>
>>> Some people will tell you that 'unless you hand knead the bread' it
>>> doesnt count. Bull hocky. You can do just as fine at being happy with
>>> your own produced breads as anyone else. The recipies are a little
>>> different with a bread machine, but only due to a static rise time
>>> making that needed.
>>>
>>> I make no apologies for using a machine to do the parts I cannot.
>>>
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>> I do have an old bread machine from back when they were the newest hot
>> gadget to get. I used a few times but didnt really care for the end
>> result. Perhaps I just need to experiment with it more. Likewise with
>> the no-knead breads.
>> ===
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>> On good days I use it just for the knead. Works ok
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> I think I might bring it out of the pantry and give it a whirl! The
> weather
> has gotten so cold and snow season has begun€”fresh bread alongside a bowl
> of soup is a match made in heaven.

I made pot roast tonight. I saved some of that and some of the veggies to
make a beef and barley soup tomorrow. I will add extra veggies and make corn
muffins. I add more corn kernels than called for and also cheese to the
batter. No egg. Applesauce instead. Works quite well.