Boron Elgar wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 19:58:23 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>
> >>
> >> Depressing, isn’t it? I’ve made bread a few times, and always
> looked >> to future days when I’d have the time to make it more
> often, and >> experiment making different types. Sadly, my bad hands
> took over >> before I ever got that chance I had been waiting for. No
> kneading for >> me, either.
> >
> > Thats why I use a bread machine. I am limited by what it does in
> > some ways, but it works well. I've been making almost all our
> > bread since 2001.
> >
> > I have about 35% reduction in feeling and strength in my right hand
> > and 15% roughly same in left hand. Both are due to spinal issues.
> > I really started making bread *after that*.
> >
> > Some people will tell you that 'unless you hand knead the bread' it
> > doesnt count. Bull hocky. You can do just as fine at being happy
> > with your own produced breads as anyone else. The recipies are a
> > little different with a bread machine, but only due to a static
> > rise time making that needed.
> >
> > I make no apologies for using a machine to do the parts I cannot.
>
> I have not used old-fashioned kneading for bread making in years and
> years.
>
> In fact, when I see any advertising that shows a person kneading
> dough, I laugh.

Grin, I don't laugh but I do consider it something one does rarely and
for fun.

Day in and day out types who make bread every 3 days or so, aren't
(IMHO) apt to be doing it all by hand and if they are, they are retired
or otherwise not working more likely than not. That doesnt mean some
of us don't do some level of 'hand made' at times. Just not normally.

I can see swapping to a dough hook easily for my needs though. I'm
just used to the no-muss-no-fuss setup I have now.