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On 3/15/2019 3:12 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 15:05:39 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 3/15/2019 2:20 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 12:46:56 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/15/2019 8:58 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>>>> C'mon, they don't even know what socialist means. They've been taught
>>>>> that it must be really bad by those who want to keep their power.
>>>>> Most people watch TV and Fox for entertainment, nothing so serious as
>>>>> understanding their government.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Simple definition:
>>>> An economic system in which the production and distribution of goods are
>>>> controlled substantially by the government rather than by private
>>>> enterprise, and in which cooperation rather than competition guides
>>>> economic activity. There are many varieties of socialism.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That sounds nice, but do you want the government to control everything?
>>>> Do you want the government to determine the cars we drive, the types of
>>>> housing to be built, how much money we can earn? Government control of
>>>> food production? What the stores will carry?
>>>>
>>>> Then you move to the Democratic Socialits
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism
>>>> Democratic socialism is a political philosophy that advocates political
>>>> democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production.
>>>> Democratic socialism is the wing of the socialist movement that combines
>>>> a belief in a socially owned economy with that of political
>>>> democracy.</ref> with an emphasis on self-management and democratic
>>>> management of economic institutions within a market or some form of
>>>> decentralized planned socialist economy.[1] Democratic socialists
>>>> espouse that capitalism is inherently incompatible with what they hold
>>>> to be the democratic values of liberty, equality and solidarity; and
>>>> that these ideals can only be achieved through the realization of a
>>>> socialist socie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now, please tell us what you think it is and what you would like to happen.
>>>
>>> Why do you only offer two forms of socialism as choices? A democratic
>>> socialist isn't the same thing as a social democrat, by the way. You
>>> hear the word "social" and you get spams because you think it refers
>>> to socialism.
>>>

>>
>> So, why not explain the difference? Rather than educate do you just
>> want to irritate?

>
> Because of your choice of two forms of socialism to make some kind of
> clueless point. I think you were confusing a social democrat and a
> democratic socialist.
>
> S O C I A L vs. S O C I A L I S T
>
> It's social to keep the door open for someone, but it doesn't make you
> a socialist.
>

OK, so you don't know either.

I do know I don't want the government ruling my life.