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"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Saturday, July 27, 2019 at 11:10:57 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
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> On Saturday, July 27, 2019 at 11:13:59 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2019-07-27 4:47 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > >> I see that protest was from 2016. Are they still going on?
> > >
> > > I can't say what the status is of federal recognition of Hawaiians as
> > > native Americans. What they really want is recognition of the Kingdom
> > > of Hawaii. Well some native Hawaiians do anyway. Other Hawaiians
> > > recognize that you cannot really regain the past and will seek a more
> > > practical approach to move into the future. There must have been a
> > > resolution or a hold on the protests since I haven't anything about
> > > it it.
> > >

> > Which Hawaiian kingdom do they expect to be recognized? There were
> > several different ones, and after years of bloodshed they finally
> > established a united kingdom.That would have meant that there were some
> > sore losers. The traditional Hawaiian society had a class system. I
> > wonder how many would support reverting to that if they knew that the
> > majority of them would end up at the bottom end of that.

>
> As it goes, it's not any of our business to ask these questions. Those
> question should be answered only by the native Hawaiians. I am well aware
> of
> the differing factions of the Hawaiian people but that's neither here nor
> there. These are not our affairs.
>
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> Ahh, I assumed you are Hawaiian If it is not a rude question,
> where
> are you from ... and you don't need to answer that)


There are only a frightfully few "pure" Hawaiians left. Most of the natives
are part Hawaiians. I think you get to be native Hawaiians by being raised
with the language and taught to have a love and a certain relationship with
the land. My granddaughters are part Hawaiian, my wife and I are not. In the
end we get to be classified as local Hawaiians, not native Hawaiians.

Mostly, the locals have learned to love the culture and people of Hawaii.
The native Hawaiians also love the people and culture but also feel a great
kinship with the land and the ways of the past. I know, it's confusing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPjBMJndO-E

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Thanks very much! He makes a lot of sense, but then he always does))
Yes, I see now what you meant)