On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 05:11:54 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> wrote:

> wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 05:25:27 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>> > wrote:
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>>> Julie Bove > wrote:
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>>>> > wrote in message
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>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:29:50 -0700 (PDT), GM
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> US Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:50:21 -0500,
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the farmers market they have cucumbers for 50 cents each. They are
>>>>>>>> about 12-14 inches long and have a good girth. So I decided to make my
>>>>>>>> bread and butter pickles instead of buying them for about 3.50 a jar
>>>>>>>> or more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So the first thing I do is thinly slice my cukes in many slices, it
>>>>>>>> usually works out to one cuke per 24 oz jar. Then I put them in a
>>>>>>>> large bowl and give them a good salting a good mix and cover and let
>>>>>>>> them sit in the fridge for about three hours.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then I make my vinegar solution by mixing usually 2 parts water to 1
>>>>>>>> part apple cider or maybe white distilled vinegar. Then I add my
>>>>>>>> spices I will most often as the sweetener add 1/2 to 1 sugar per
>>>>>>>> vinegar. Then usually about 1/4 tsp mustard seeds or even 1/8 for a
>>>>>>>> small batch. Then I cut some green onions in about 1 inch strips and
>>>>>>>> throw that in the vinegar solution. Then I place it over a low flame
>>>>>>>> and make sure the sugar has completely dissolved.
>>>>>>>> I will then take the cucumber water that has been pulled out of the
>>>>>>>> cukes by the salt and add that to the vinegar. There is some great
>>>>>>>> flavor in there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When my vinegar solution comes to a light boil I will fill my empty
>>>>>>>> jars with the cuke slices and then pour in the vinegar. Very lightly I
>>>>>>>> will put on the lids and tightening them only fingertip tight. Then
>>>>>>>> place the jars in my air fryer oven and set it to 190 F for about 35
>>>>>>>> minutes. I usually just leave it in there over night to cool and the
>>>>>>>> next day ensure the lids have tightened and then store the jars on a
>>>>>>>> shelf somewhere.
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "There are idiots among us, and they all believe in a god"
>>>>>>>> ~Toidi Uoy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have you ever pickled anything before?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not a "pickle recipe", that's a "BOTULISM recipe", lol...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And it's way cheaper to simply buy a decent pickle, canning is very
>>>>>> labor - intensive and costly...
>>>>>
>>>>> How is it labor intensive? you cut then salt let sit then mix your
>>>>> vinegar put it in the jar heat the jar to a low heat, then done. I use
>>>>> the exact same jars from when I bought them from the store. I just
>>>>> cleaned and stored them. I have used the same jar and lids for the
>>>>> pineapple jam at least 4 times and now pickles 3 times with the exact
>>>>> same jar. So like I said I can make a full 24 oz jar of pickles for
>>>>> about 1 dollar
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing I am having problems with though is finding a good
>>>>> vinegar that I like. I bought a big gallon of white distilled from
>>>>> costco so I have a good bit to use before I get more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used to can a lot many years ago, but the novelty soon wore off. I can
>>>>>> buy better canned tomatoes, etc., than I can make...I bought all the
>>>>>> canning produce at local farmers markets, canning is useful if you grown
>>>>>> yer own stuff, otherwise it is mostly a money/time sink...
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said that all depends on how you do it.
>>>>> Just like people once thought that it is best to wash rinse and
>>>>> repeat. There are ways to do things that is just as safe and just as
>>>>> good and usually easier and cheaper. Like using an Airfryer for the
>>>>> canning instead of boiling water or a pressure cooker. Using those
>>>>> screw on lids really makes it simple. Granted the screw on lids will
>>>>> eventually warp and not be useable anymore but I have used them quite
>>>>> a few times and it has done very well so far.
>>>>
>>>> I believe the term was "Lather, rinse and repeat". In those days, the
>>>> shampoo was rather harsh on the hair and not as effective at removing oils
>>>> as today's products.. Also, people people generally only washed their hair
>>>> once a week. So repeating the process was necessary, as was using a crème
>>>> rinse to remove the tangles caused by the shampoo.
>>>>
>>>> There is a strict set of rules and recipes to be followed when canning. This
>>>> is for the sake of safety. Those rules do change from time to time as we
>>>> learn more. The first time I made jam, it was not canned in a water bath and
>>>> it was sealed with paraffin. That method is no longer used.
>>>>
>>>> I know you love your air fryer but I think it's one of those fad things. I
>>>> don't know anyone IRL who has one and I'm not even remotely tempted to buy
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You?re not missing much. I have one, and out of all the kitchen
>>> appliances/toys I have, it?s the most useless one. I swear I?d keep my cake
>>> pop maker over the air fryer any day. Not really, but I think you catch my
>>> drift. It doesn?t do a damn thing better than what I can do with with a
>>> regular old stove.
>>
>> Clearly you mean stove/oven/microwave/toaster/deep fryer.....yeah you
>> are right it is such a hassle having one thing that can take the place
>> of pretty much everything in the kitchen
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>I don’t deep fry, but if I wanted to I’d just heat up a vat of oil on my
>stove. I don’t need a separate appliance for that. And the only thing I do
>with my microwave is heat up frozen vegetables and melt butter, both of
>which I also have no problems doing — on my stove. Does your air fryer
>melt butter and steam vegetables?

Well I the melting butter part is not really cooking and even though
I have never had a need to melt butter I am fairly sure melting butter
would not be hard at all. As far as steaming veggies, that is fairly
easy and can be done with no problem.

> Unless you don’t really cook anything
>other than French fries and chicken nuggets, the air fryer isn’t that all
>encompassing.
I have an air fryer oven which pretty much means it is front loading
and I can fry, steam, bake, dehydrate, toast, broil, slow cook, it
has a rotisserie so I can make hard or soft boiled eggs and fry bacon
and grill up some hash browns at the same time in an air fryer oven,
For lunch I can make a toasted sandwich, and for dinner I can make a
burger and fries or steak and baked potato and all of it done in the
same appliance at the same time.

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