Don't Hate Me Because I Bag My Own Groceries
On 9/15/2019 8:35 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 20:26:11 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 9/15/2019 3:42 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 15:29:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/15/2019 3:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 09:34:44 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No need to run away from this discussion. Just think about
>>>>>> what you said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't ignore reality, dsi1. Japs already took over the other
>>>>>> south pacific islands. Hawaii would have been a big score for
>>>>>> them...the next big step to be in range of mainland USA and they,
>>>>>> in fact, did try to get closer in the Aleutions after they
>>>>>> couldn't conquer Hawaii.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't forget how the Japanese mistreated allied POWs either. They
>>>>>> really were an evil empire back in those days but war does that
>>>>>> to people. It's just worldwide insanity. And most of the people
>>>>>> killed or doing the killing were just normal people that would
>>>>>> prefer to live in peace.
>>>>>
>>>>> They also treated civilians badly, including women and children. Put
>>>>> them in concentration camps, almost starved them to death. Of course
>>>>> throwing an atomic bomb on their cities is also an inconceivable
>>>>> atrocity. The second biggest western atrocity after the Holocaust.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess that falls under "seemed like a good idea at the time". It did
>>>> help bring and end to the war and it will be debated forever how many
>>>> lives would have been lost otherwise. We'll never know what
>>>> alternatives may have worked. Or not.
>>>
>>> Throwing atomic boms on civilians can never be the solution. It's the
>>> problem.
>>>
>> Easy to say sitting in your easy chair in 2019. I have to wonder how
>> you'd feel in 1944 as millions were being killed.
>>
>> We can look back at every war and say what was wrong and what atrocities
>> were committed. Would we have said the same at the time? We'll never
>> know.
>
> A civilised person does not throw atomic bombs on a city. That is
> exactly the kind of behaviour your fighting to stop. Why do it
> yourself then? It's barbaric.
>
> If it hadn't been the Americans who did that, but the Germans or the
> Japanese, you'd have agreed with me.
>
Civilized people do go to war of any sort. If you were of age at the
time you may have thought different. The end result was that it did
stop the behavior of the Japanese. In 1944 I'd have not called them
Japanese either, they were the Japs.
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