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FINISHED painting interior of front door!
Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 11:22:43 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
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>> On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 9:57:28 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why didn't you install solar panels on your roof? You could have generated
>>>> your own electricity and probably sold some back to your local power company.
>>>
>>> I doubt his roof has enough area at the correct exposure for solar
>>> panels to produce much.
>>>
>> It would depend on the direction his house faces. He's got enough roof
>> surface he could have several panels plus his garage roof would accomodate
>> more panels.
>>
>>
>>> Where I live a lot of people place the solar
>>> panels in their yard on posts that are cemented into the ground so
>>> they're up off the ground so they can mow around them and so they can
>>> brush the snow off. They don't like to place them on their roof as
>>> they will cause the roof to leak.
>>>
>> Properly installed solar panels do not cause leaks. There are some
>> available that actually open like ladies handheld fan but these open
>> a full 360° and are mounted on a post. But these are quite expen$ive.
>>>
>>> I doubt it would work well on that
>>> tile roof anyway, they'd have to drill a lot of bolt holes.
>>>
>> He was needing a new roof anyway. He could have replaced it with longlife
>> asphalt shingles and the money he saved on the roofing could have been used
>> for solar panels.
>>>
>>> I thought about installing solar panels here and even had a company do
>>> a survey. I have several acres they could use but I didn't want to
>>> look at those ugly panels and there would be a lot of mowing and snow
>>> removal. Plus more than half the time they'd produce no elctricity,
>>> they produce nothing at night or on cloudy days.
>>>
>> That's why you stay on the electric company's grid to provide you with power
>> on days with extended cloudiness, snow, or rain.
>>>
>>> Once installed I'd
>>> be responsible for their maintenence and repairs.
>>>
>> Just like you are responsible for maintenance on your house and vehicles.
>>>
>>> The panels are
>>> mostly made of plastic, UV light wreaks havoc on those panels so they
>>> don't last long.
>>>
>> That, I don't know. But I don't hear people complaining about replacing
>> those panels all the time.
>>>
>>> Solar panels are okay for a few small light bulbs
>>> but would need a lot of panels to run A/C, an electric stove, a
>>> clothes dryer, a fridge/freezer, charge an electric car, fergetabout
>>> it.
>>>
>> Not true. Depending on how many panels you have installed they can power
>> a large house.
>>>
>>> Solar power is a long way into the future. Solar is good for
>>> powering small electronics, like a calculator, a medical thermometer,
>>> a toothbrush, a clock. The main drawback to solar is transmission.
>>>
>> Again, not true. The one thing that holds people back from installing
>> the panels is the initial cost.
>
> Those with the money for the installation are typically too old to get
> the payback... for me at my age it would be like kootchie at his age
> spending more on a roof than his entire house cost. When they did the
> survey they quoted me a price for the panels and installation of
> $240,000. If we live to be 100 our electric bills won't equal that.
> There are better ways to keep one's electric usage low. I've been
> frugal with electric all my life, I don't turn on lights on a sunny
> day, I open the shades and I automatically turn off lights when I
> leave a room. And recently we changed all our lighting to LED, cut
> our electric bill to less than half, especially with all outside
> lighting LED on at dusk off at dawn fixtures... those lights last a
> long time (15-20 years) could easily outlive us, no bulbs to buy and
> no climbing ladders to change bulbs. We have all the creature
> comforts, more than most... four TVs, two refrigerator freezers, two
> cars, all the food we can eat. We're simply not wasteful. We gave up
> eating at restaurants, they are all way over priced and their quality
> is the lowest possible. I have no problem doing all our cooking.
> Makes us ill speding over $100 on a restaurant dinner for two and
> leaving very disappointed and hungry, even the service stinks, what
> service, there is none. And restaurants are especially rip offs on
> bar drinks. Their salads are wilted greens out of those plastic bags.
> It reached the point that we couldn't find anything on their menus
> that we wanted to eat that I couldn't prepare at home for half the
> price or less and of far better quality. For dinner yesterday I made
> center cut pork loin chops on the bone, thick cut 1 1/4", seasoned
> with fresh ground white pepper, fresh ginger, soy sauce, toasted
> sesame seed oil, pan fried. Then in the same pan stir fried slivered
> garlic and a big mess of Swiss chard fresh from our garden. We
> couldn't finish those huge pork chops so we have half for tonight with
> a bigger batch of Swiss chard. When we decide on beef steak I'll make
> a quick trip into town and ask the same butcher at Tops whats good, he
> never fails to produce high quality steaks, much better than any
> so-called fancy schmancy steak house... it's no big deal to cook
> steak... probably one of the simplest foods to prepare. And for 1/3
> the price of a fancy schmancy steak house. And I never minded pouring
> our own booze. My wife has her Belizean rum and coke and I have my
> Crystal Palace and sugar free Sprite with a big lemon wedge. The same
> butcher prepares our pork chops, also extremely easy to cook. Lately
> I prefer pan frying rather than on the outside grill. We're not in
> the least concerned about grill marks. I prefer to pan fry meat and
> then to immediately stir fry the veggies in the same pan, much more
> flavor. The veggie garden is now producing full tilt, yellow and
> green summer squash, Kirby Cukes up the kazoo, mixed salad greens, and
> tons of Swiss chard... soon tomatoes and peppers... already melons and
> pumpkins are set, we have people to gift with ovearge. We grow
> pumpkins for decor.
>
Popeye Yoose sure like to type. 
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