Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 16:32:07 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> > wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 5:57:42 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 4:53:06 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have a leather trifold. Bought it in Italy a dozen years ago at a
>>>> small leather shop in Florence. It was cheap so two years later I
>>>> bought another in a different color to use when the first wore out.
>>>> Looks like that will be inherited by my sone as the first one is in
>>>> great shape.
>>>>
>>> Leather. Good stuff and practically incapable of wearing it out.
>>>
>>> Bruce will have a hissy fit running backward BUT an animal must
>>> die for us to use this product.
>>
>> Leather is a byproduct of beef and dairy No one would raise cattle exclusively for leather if cattle didn't have tasty meat and/or tasty milk. I've known vegetarians who've admitted to me that it's not about the welfare of animals, but that they think eating animals' bodies is gross.
>
> And then there are vegetarians who don't eat meat for health reasons
> or for environmental reasons. I stick to animal welfare first of all,
> but I'd appreciate any health benefits. Remember how the WHO said
> eating red meat is as bad for us as smoking.
>

Yes Gruce, you told us several times today, ****stick.