On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 09:48:52 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/28/2021 10:10 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 22:05:04 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/28/2021 3:58 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> My guess is that we're gonna need unions more than ever. We need them more because of the every widening rift between the haves and have-not. The greater the divide between the rich and the lower classes, the more you need for instruments of equalization. My wife likes to complain about her boss to me when she gets home every so often. Some of it is pretty egregious. I always say that she should go to her union - that's what they're around for. Mostly, workers just want to be respected, and not abused. Is that too much to ask for?
>>>>
>>> I've worked at companies that had unions. If it was 1930 there is a
>>> chance I'd be a union organizer as they were needed and helped the
>>> workers.
>>>
>>> Fast Forward to the 1960. The unions did not give a crap about the
>>> members but took good care of the union bosses. It became all about the
>>> dues and money contributed to the union run health and welfare benefits.
>>>
>>> I've watch workers walking the picked line in the rain and cold while
>>> the union boss pulls up in his Caddy to give them encouragement.
>>> Negotiations? Yeah, that was done at lunch and settled before the shop
>>> negotiating committee was selected and the charade started.
>>>
>>> Workers should be respected and not abused but a union is not going to
>>> fix that. The workers could if they really wanted to. And pay no dues.
>>
>> Without unions, we go back to Dickensian times, to unbridled,
>> capitalism, to barbarism.
>>
>
>There will always be a few but. . .
>Today the worker has plenty of tools that did not exist years ago.
>Often people know the working conditions before every applying for a
>job. Companies have to offer decent benefits to get the best workers
>today.
>
>I worked for one company that liked the fact that the shop was union.
>They did not have to do anything that was not in the contract. The best
>workers go the same treatment as the marginal workers. They did pay
>more than the contract though, if not, the company next door paid more
>and took away the best workers.
>
>People can still organize without paying dues to a bunch of thugs at
>union headquarters.

Some cops are bad, but that's no reason to do away with the police.
Same with unions IMO. The best tool to make sure workers are treated
decently is a union.