On 3/23/2021 4:01 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 15:37:35 -0400, Michael >
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/23/2021 3:13 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 3:08:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>> On 3/23/2021 11:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 10:50:58 AM UTC-4, S Viemeister wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/03/2021 14:37, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I bought a "Mainstays(WW house-brand)" 6" skillet (which usta be
>>>>>>>> non-stick, which it is no longer) to replace my "ceramic" skillets.
>>>>>>>> I'm taking it back (egg stuck)!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WTF? We've got nonstick pans that are _years_ old and eggs don't stick
>>>>>>> to them. I assume WW is WallyWorld, aka WalMart ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a couple of old, well-seasoned, cast iron pans which I only use
>>>>>> for eggs and crepes. Stuff slides right out of them.
>>>>>> Oh, and I sometimes use them for cornbread, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it can't go in the dishwasher, I don't want to own it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except sharp knives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>> Dish washer? Shucks... that's what they call me around here. Do ya
>>>> have two hands, soap, and a rag? Hopefully a sink too - and you're set.
>>>
>>> Why should I stand there with my hands in hot dishwater when I can stick
>>> everything in the dishwasher, get it cleaner, and use less water, while
>>> simultaneously doing something I actually enjoy?
>>>
>>> Do you pound your laundry on a rock in the river to get it clean?
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>> Less water, but lets look at the cost of electricity, as well as wasted
>> cabinet space. I doubt it saves water either.
>
> Not hard to see the general consensus online.
>>
>> Sometimes the newest method isn't the best method.
>
> Depends on what "best" means to you.
>
>> ?No, I do not wash my
>> clothes in a river, but I've used an automatic washer and a wringer
>> washer, and the wringer wins hands-down if you want efficiency and clean
>> laundry.
>
> There is nothing efficient to the human wringing the clothes. Take
> time and some expending of physical effort, either of which I think
> makes sense for laundry.
>
> And if one is hanging the clothes outside and has the time,
> inclination and weather for that, it might help and gosh, have fun,
> but clothes put through a wringer have never come out as dry as the
> spin cycles on my HE machine.
>
> My "best" is very different from yours. I am not a carbon footprint
> stomper by any means. I do a lot to control my energy and product
> use, but some things just ain't worth it to me.
>
> Hell, I don't even waste my time or hands kneading my bread dough.....
>
Fair point - everyone's "best" is different. For me, cheap cheap cheap.
I found a wringer machine to be efficient by way of saving water (3
wash loads through one tub of water/suds). Also it is nice having
control over the process, and clothes came out cleaner.

Agreed, that the wringer doesn't dry the clothes as well, but as you
stated, when hanging them out, the sun and wind are doing the work
rather than your automatic clothes dryer. It's all good exercise to me;
but keep in mind that I'm only 25 years old. I could understand that
not being desirable to someone who's 50+.

Bread is one of those things that you have to enjoy making. You'd be
hard pressed to get cheaper than the $1 king size bread loaf at the
store. Maybe it'd be a hair cheaper to make, depending on the size of
bulk you buy in, cost of yeast, cost of oven, etc.