"Gideon Stargrave" > wrote in message
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>
>>> Cheese has been one of the hardest things for me to give up; I'd REALLY
>>> like to find some good, vegan substitutes...that actually taste and melt
>>> like real cheese.
>>>
>>
>> Cheese can be painful to give up. Eventually, you just stop missing it.
>> The rare times that I eat it now, it makes me feel full and heavy, and
>> risks giving me digestive problems. Nutritional yeast and tofu have
>> replaced cheese in most respects for me.
>>
>> But let me tell you, a frite-sauce is no where near the same as a
>> poutine.
>>
>> -- Blue
>
> if you make the vegan choice for ethical reasons, you are obviously strong
> enough to give up things you like. the way i kicked cheese, and suggest
> as the way to easily forget about cheese is thus:
> remember, cheese is just an extra, a condiment basically. it is truly
> just about flavor! now, think about the calves that are born to the milk
> cows, and then, you realize that you are still killing animals, just for
> taste. if that doesnt help, then, try to remember that it is basically
> mold, that turns the milk to cheese.
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And if that doesn't help, remember the animals that are shredded, sliced,
diced, dis-membered in farm machinery. remember the animals that die from
their guts turning to mush from the poisons used to deliberately kill them
just to keeo you veggies clean and cheap. Remember the animals that die
from having their skin burned, or from violent spasms after being sprayed
with pesticides. Remember the animals that are eaten alive from predators
or that starve to death after you've harvested all the easy food and cover
off the fields. That's after you crops have allowed their numbers to swell
far beyond the normal carry capacity of the area because of the easy food
and cover your crops provide.

So, if you really look, you can find real free-range meats and eggs. It's
a large and growing market. It's getting bigger because real people *do*
care. It's the vegans that are not doing anything to change the way animals
are raised for food. All they have is their hate, and of course their
simple rule for their simple minds, 'eat no meat.' Doens't save animals in
the long run, just replaces the ones that were on their plate with the ones
they leave to suffer, die and rot in the fileds. Quite compassionate of
them, right?