"will law" > wrote in message
news:nZQid.209012$a85.48507@fed1read04...
> rick etter wrote:
>
>> And if that doesn't help, remember the animals that are shredded, sliced,
>> diced, dis-membered in farm machinery. remember the animals that die
>> from their guts turning to mush from the poisons used to deliberately
>> kill them just to keeo you veggies clean and cheap. Remember the
>> animals that die from having their skin burned, or from violent spasms
>> after being sprayed with pesticides. Remember the animals that are
>> eaten alive from predators or that starve to death after you've harvested
>> all the easy food and cover off the fields. That's after you crops have
>> allowed their numbers to swell far beyond the normal carry capacity of
>> the area because of the easy food and cover your crops provide.
>>
>> So, if you really look, you can find real free-range meats and eggs.
>> It's a large and growing market. It's getting bigger because real people
>> *do* care. It's the vegans that are not doing anything to change the way
>> animals are raised for food. All they have is their hate, and of course
>> their simple rule for their simple minds, 'eat no meat.' Doens't save
>> animals in the long run, just replaces the ones that were on their plate
>> with the ones they leave to suffer, die and rot in the fileds. Quite
>> compassionate of them, right?
>
> So are you trying to suggest that we give up eating vegetables all
> together and try to live on a meat only diet?
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Nice strawman try. Nowhere do you see me say that.




Good luck surviving on
> that diet buddy.
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You can live on meats only better than you can veggies only. Unless of
course you never wash your hands....



And besides....what about the farmers that shoot foxes
> that come looking for chickens.
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How many would that be? Hardly the munbers that are killed to protect, or
to just grow your crops.

Or the poisons that kill predators
> looking for farm animals?
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How many would those be? I'll give you a 100,000 coyotes a year out west,
and raise you millions and millions of birds to protect crops.

Or the animals that are eaten alive from
> predators or that starve to death after you've removed all easy pickings
> farm animals from the fields.
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ROTFLMAO What 'easy pickings' animals would those be fool? The animals
that die from predators and starvation are the ones that die after all your
crops are harvested. Try looking into the number of animals that can live
in a farm field. that can be 100s to 1000s *per acre*. It is the crops
that allow for those numbers. The crops provide an unnatural amount of food
and cover for an area, allowing animal numbers to explode. Then, those
crops are harvested. The surrounding cannot support the extra numbers as
those areas will already be at their natural levels. The animals die from
predation due to lack of cover, and starvation due to lack of food for their
numbers. Crop farming is the definition of natural habitat destruction.
Grasslands used for grazing are just what they were naturally.





Why do you think people only eat organic?
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So? Organic does not mean cruelty-free, killer. The methods are the same,
and pesticides are still used. Nice try at another strawman, but you've
lost, again, killer.


Now, go have that nice blood-drenched breakfast, killer.