"Jon Endres, PE" t> wrote in message >...

> No KA for me, ever again. Next one will be a Miele, Bosch or even a cheaper
> Maytag or Kenmore.

Since KA and Kenmore are both made by Whirlpool, you may want to avoid
those three brands. See my previous post in this thread for my bad
experience with Whirlpool/Kenmore, and the advice that the service
tech gave me.

/Don