On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:07:07 -0500, "C. James Strutz"
> scribbled some thoughts:


>
>"Andrew H. Carter" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On 22 Nov 2004 15:43:43 GMT, (PENMART01)
>
>> Time to play the Devil's Advocate: Wouldn't it be
>> hillarious if your spouse/mother/father/brother/sister/child
>> was shot in just such a manner? Why is it excellent? When
>> an issue like this does not hit close to home, people make
>> light of it, but when it hits close to home, or home,
>> feelings change.
>
>True.
>
>> I wonder how long a vegetarian would stay a vegetarian if a
>> savage dog attacked him/her, or they were out camping miles
>> from nowhere, or their plane went down and it was in the
>> middle of nowhere.
>
>You need to know that there are different kinds of vegetarians. Not all
>vegetarians are vegan (strict "ethical" vegetarians who choose not to
>support animal exploitation through diet and lifestyle). Some vegetarians
>choose not to eat meat and/or dairy and/or eggs for health, environmental,
>or religious reasons among others. Please do not generalize all vegetarians
>together.
>

Vegetarian (Veggie Vegan PETA)
Lacto vegetarians (Dairy and Veggie/Fruit Vegans)
Lacto-ovo vegetarians (Dairy, Veggie and Egg Vegans)
Seventh Day Adventists

Vegetarians with a twist:

Orthodox Jews: Must be kosher
Orthodox Muslims: Must be hilal

Basically the two above, if it's good for one it's good for
the other if there is no other choice.


Wasn't meant to generalize.

>> Some vegetation can kill a person, some
>> animals can kill a person if bitten, but rarely if eaten,
>> the possible exception being rabbit as eating too much in a
>> survival situation would cause one to be dehydrated. Does
>> the vegetarian try to find edible plants? What if there
>> aren't any that they can find? Wait it out, or does the
>> gene that makes the self preservation kick in and one
>> devises a way to trap an animal, kill it then eat it?
>
>Smart people usually don't put themselves in that sort of situation. When I
>go to the backwoods I usually take the necessary precautions to get me
>through safely, including enough food and water. It's actually pretty hard
>these days to find a place where you are truely lost to the point where
>survivability is an issue. However, it could happen and if it did then the
>circumstances and will of the persons involved will dictate the outcome.
>It's too hard to speculate on something like that.
>
>> Plants "eat" animals when the animals die, via their roots,
>> so even vegetarians are true vegetarians, for they are

Above line should read: " so even vegetarians aren't true
vegetarians, "

>> eating animals once removed.
>
>Sigh, please THINK about what you're writing.
>

Wasn't the first, actually got that from Spock/Leonard
Nimoy, I believe it was the Eden/Garden of Eden episode?

>> Personally, I see no reason to go hunting, when there are
>> farms which raise animals to be slaughtered.
>
>How about the severe deer overpopulations all over the country? Or some less
>fortunate people who find it difficult to afford meat from a grocery store?
>Or the increasing threats of food-borne illnesses from commercial food
>processing/handling? Or the antibiotics, steroids, growth hormones, etc.
>that factory farms typically feed to grain-fed cattle? Or the increasing
>evidence linking saturated fats found in commercial meats to heart disease
>and cancer? There are a few reasons for you.
>
>> Still, in a
>> survival situation, I'd trap an animal, or if lucky enough
>> find some black walnuts in husks and find a pool off a creek
>> with fish in it and to save the energy of expending to catch
>> the fish, drop a walnut and husk in the water: the fish from
>> what I've read will rise the the surface ready to be caught
>> and eaten, the husk has a toxin which will kill fish. So
>> ideally one would not want to go overboard, or one could
>> design a fish trap that funnels the fish in, but they don't
>> seem to find the way out at the center.
>
>More than likely you'll be eating insects, worms, inner tree bark and any
>other food source you can find. Walnuts and trout streams aren't always
>convenient. :^)
>

Depends on your locale. :-)

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