On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:54:37 -0800, Steve Jackson wrote:

> "Craig Bergren" > wrote in message
> news >
>> It's interesting to see that the only commercial examples the BJCP
>> guidelines can come up with are American (either Mexico or US). It
>> seems to me that this is a made up style for beer competitions that
>> doesn't exist in the wild or are they claiming that the style was exiled
>> from Wien with Maximiliiano y Carlota?
>
> Actually, there is historical precedent for the style. It was carried over
> during the wave of German and Austrian immigration to the Americas in the
> 19th century. The style died off in Europe. It may or may not have been
> maintained through some of the Mexican beers. Assuming that Negra Modelo
> fits the profile of the Vienna beers is a big assumption, just as assuming
> that Anchor's rendition of steam beer is like the historical beers.
>
> -Steve

I was just reading about how a Hapsburg Emperor sent a Bohemian
brew master to Mexico to teach them how to brew beer. The reference was
in a paragraph related to the 30 years war, 16th century, but it wasn't
specific as to when this technology transfer occurred. I think it's more
likely that Emperor Franz Josef sent the brew master from Bohemia to
his brother Maxamiliano in the mid 19th century. That would be about
the time the Pilsner style was developed and would account for popularity
of the Wiener style in Mexican beer (if you believe Michael Jackson, the
brew master at Moctezuma is 72 years old he might remember what a real
Vienna tastes like - Indio and XX Amber).

CB