"Arri London" > wrote in message
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> "Andrew H. Carter" wrote:
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>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:15:39 -0700, Arri London
>> > scribbled some thoughts:
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>> >"Andrew H. Carter" wrote:
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>> >> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 05:39:55 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
>> >> > scribbled some thoughts:
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>> >> >"Andrew H. Carter" > wrote in message
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>> >> >> Tell, you what, how about going into a oxygen rich room and
>> >> >> then striking a match then come back if possible and report
>> >> >> your findings.
>> >> >
>> >> >It is still not considered a flammable gas, but an oxidant. It
>> >> >support
>> >> >combustion but does not cause it. FWIW, a portion of my income is
>> >> >from
>> >> >handling oxygen so I took the time to learn a little about it.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I should think the definition needs to be changed.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.bocindustrial.com/safety/..._of_oxygen.asp
>> >>
>> >> Smoking
>> >>
>> >> Many burning accidents which occur are triggered off by the
>> >> lighting of a cigarette, therefore it is impossible to
>> >> over-emphasise the danger of smoking in oxygen enriched
>> >> atmospheres or where oxygen enrichment can occur. In such
>> >> areas smoking must be forbidden.
>> >>
>> >> So it's okay to strike up a match in an oxygen rich room?
>> >
>> >No because oxygen *supports* combustion even though it isn't flammable
>> >itself. That's basic chemistry.
>> >>
>> >> If you cannot have a fire without oxygen, then what praytell
>> >> is oxygen, a fire retardant? Will hydrogen burn in the
>> >> absence of oxygen?
>> >
>> >Yes certainly. We did that experiment in high school chemistry; hydrogen
>> >collected from the electrolysis of pure water and ignited by a spark.
>> >>
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>> We did that too!, but it was in a room where oxygen was
>> present.
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> We did it in a sealed system. No oxygen present.

No, you didn't.

> > I'm not talking cold fusion, I'm talking absolute
>> 100% hydrogen combustion in a vacuum at least where there is
>> no Oxygen present at all, no other gas present except
>> hydrogen. I bet that did not happen.
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> It did. Simple system of otherwise evacuated glass tubing. Pretty
> standard stuff.
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> At the same time in
>> space where there is no oxygen due to the lack of gravity,
>> it would be curious to solve that riddle.
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> Stars burn hydrogen.

No they don't. It's called fusion.


>> While burning hydrogen "produces" water and Oxygen, it
>> doesn't really, the combustion of such accumulates those
>> molecules/atoms.
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> Burning hydrogen produces water in the presence of oxygen, as in H2O. No
> oxygen, no water produced.

No oxygen, no combustion.

Scott.