"usual suspect" > wrote in message
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> Chuck wrote:
>> "usual suspect" > wrote in message
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>>>Chuck wrote:
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>>>>IF Soy wasn't safe why do the Orientals retain it for such a large part
>>>>of their diet and for so many years?
>>>
>>>Stop top-posting. Asians don't eat soy in the same forms or in the same
>>>quantities as people in the West are eating now. The Asian diet tends to
>>>have some form of fermented soy, such as soy sauce or tamari or miso, as
>>>a flavoring. Unfermented products like plain tofu (Asians also eat it
>>>fermented) are eaten sparingly. By contrast, Westerners are consuming it
>>>unfermented and in very large quantities.
>>>
>>
>> I have 6 adopted children, all oriental,
>
> I'm curious (and more than a bit doubtful). Why do you call them
> "oriental" as opposed to Chinese, Japanese, or the more accepted "Asian"?
>
First they are from different countries including Vietnam, China and Japan
so how could I call them all from one country? Second, I call them what
they call themselves. Although one calls himself a "Gook." and the others
"Slopes" or "slit eyes" but you or I should not. But they are free to call
themselves whatever they want. Just like they eat what they want. Besides
they are all adults now and are living their own lives. You are right in
one respect, they should be called "Asians" or now, Americans, as they are
citizens.

Chuck



>> they all were raised on soy milk, tofu(fried) miso and various sauces,
>> both there and here. They also eat rice daily and except for seafoods,
>> very little of the meats group.
>
> Yeah, right. Is that because *you* don't allow your adopted "oriental"
> children to eat meat or because they consciously choose to avoid it even
> though it's widely available "both there and here" and accepted in their
> culture "both there and here"?
>
As I said they eat what they prerfer.


>> Orientals
>
> *Asians*, you hillbilly

OK, Asians, you asshole

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>
>> eat several different kinds of soy and to say that one in particular is
>> used would be an error.
>
> Note what I actually wrote: TEND to use fermented soy and consume
> unfermented soy products SPARINGLY. I never said SPARINGLY
>
> http://www.mercola.com/2000/jan/9/truth_about_soy.htm
> http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/soy_update2001.html
>
> And note the following, hillbilly:
> Typically soy foods are divided into two categories:
> non-fermented and fermented soy products. Traditional
> nonfermented soy foods include fresh green soybeans, whole dry
> soybeans, soy nuts, soy sprouts, whole-fat soy flour, soymilk
> and soymilk products, tofu, okara and yuba. Traditional
> fermented soy foods include tempeh, miso, soy sauces, natto and
> fermented tofu and soymilk products. In Asia, the
> traditional fermented soy foods are considered to have more
> health promoting benefits when consumed in moderate amounts than
> the super-processed soy products that are consumed in the West.
> http://www.wellbeingjournal.com/soy.htm
>
>> We also ship large quantities of "our" soy to the orient. Are they just
>> feeding it to cows?
>
> That and they're brewing soy sauce and making other soy derivatives for
> export.
>
>> I don't think so.
>
> WTF do you know? Do your six children know you call them "orientals"?
>
>> When a limited diet is considered I think they are very resourceful
>
> Their diet isn't limited, and they're not eating much soy.
> http://www.medjournal.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-970
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/760787.stm
> http://english.people.com.cn/200410/...13_160102.html