> I never said you were killing any yourself.

You're holding me responsible though.

> > but not knowing
> > which farmers out there kill animals during
> > farming practices.
>
> It doesn't matter. As I said, you have to assume they
> ALL do it.

Why assume they all do? Do you just assume all
people other than yourself are child abusers?

> >>>What do you suggest I do to stop bad farmers?
> >>
> >>Nothing. I suggest you only stop BUYING from any of
> >>them. Your responsibility ends with your purchases.
> >>If you're not buying from ANY death-dealing farmers,
> >>you're in the clear - on food, anyway.

Gee, I guess when you become vegan, you can
do it your way. I'll do it mine. If you think I should
do more, who cares? You're just a troll trying to
shit disturb. I'm not actually going to take any of
your advise or comments seriously.

> > I have no way of knowing which farmers are bad,
>
> You have to assume they all are, until you do some
> research. The choice facing you is clear: grow all
> your own food, so you don't have to waste time checking
> out other farmres; or, IMMEDIATELY find some who don't
> kill animals, and only buy from them.

Nonsense. I can only do the best I can. The research
you suggest is beyond my means and just ridiculous.
As more and more veganically grown food becomes
availlable, I shall of course focus my buying there.
Meanwhile, I do the best I can and that's that.

> > just as you don't know whether any of the retailers
> > you support engage in child abuse.
>
> You and that idiot Ron keep trying to make the consumer
> responsible for what the producer does with the money
> AFTER the consumer pays for the products, and it just
> won't fly. I only deal with producers in their
> capacity as producers. I am only responsible for any
> moral taint in the PRODUCTS I buy, not in what the
> producer does with the money after I give it to him.

He uses it for making kiddie porn. Following your
logic, we must assume ALL retailers are child
abusers and you don't do all you can do.

> > There you go forcing the word absolutely at me
> > again.
>
> No, YOU force it on yourself. You HAVE to believe it's
> absolute.

Say it all you want, you're not going to talk me into
believing that. Just fess up. The word absolute
was introduced by you.

> > Killing animals is wrong.
>
> Without any modifier, the correct presumption is you
> believe it is ABSOLUTELY wrong.
>
> > I don't say absolutely.
>
> You don't need to say it. It's right there in plain sight.

The only way it could be in plain sight would
be if I actually said it, which I didn't.

> > As such, my
> > reduction in cds is good enough for me.
>
> No, it isn't. You're still complicit in the
> non-self-defense deaths of animals, which you claim is
> wrong. Absolutely wrong.

No. Just wrong. Not to the point of absoluteness
that requires the boycott of all food you suggested.

> > You sure do resort to a lot of swearing in place
> > of discussion. Moving to a farm is not currently
> > possible for me.
>
> Of course it is possible, you ****ing liar.

No. I'm not lying. It's not currently possible
for me.

> > Gee, you weren't lazy. You wrote a whole paragraph
> > without answering my questions. I thought it was
> > supposed to be easy. Which are the high cd foods
> > and which are the low ones.
>
> It's not my responsibility to tell you. It's your
> responsibility to find out.

You don't know which are the high and low cd food.
You don't know how to tell the good farmers from
the bad ones.

> > The voices in your head are not in mine.
>
> No voices. I read what you write. What you write
> says, implicitly, that you belief it is ABSOLUTELY
> wrong to kill animals other than in self defense. YOU
> participate, through your purchases, in processes that
> lead to the non-self-defense killing of animals, which
> killing you believe to be absolutely wrong. THEREFORE,
> you have no basis for your contentment.

What sentences implied it? I've not implied
the absolute part at all. You really should
watch out with things you think are implied.
They aren't always what you think they are.




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