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> > I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
>
> Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
> poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.


I don't know which do this, if they really do. Given that
I have no choice other than to starve, what do you
suppose that I do.

> > You are trying
> > to put an 'absoluteness' on the whole thing,

>
> That's what VEGANS do. You claim it's wrong to kill animals, and when
> shown that your diet causes more animals to be killed, you say it's
> wrong to eat them.


Never mind other vegans and what you think of them.
Don't use the word absolute thrown in.

> > when in
> > fact you know full well that I am content with the death
> > reductions I have made

>
> You haven't reduced animal deaths through your consumption. You're
> engaging in a perverse tautology in which you say something is wrong

but
> that you're not responsible.


I'm doing the best I can for both my health and the
animals.

> > (knowing that it's currently
> > impossible to do better).

>
> Only because you're the classically clueless urbanite. You've been

told
> how it's possible to cause much fewer animal deaths, but you object

when
> some of the options include eating certain kinds of meat; you've also
> suggested -- LAMELY -- that only wealthy landowners can afford to grow
> crops "veganically."


Only someone with very few braincells would suggest to a
vegetarian or vegan that they eat meat. The id is not
acceptable.

If they did though, then how would they reduce the cds in all
the other foods they eat?

> > I have
> > seen no indications that foreign grown foods cause
> > more deaths than local ones, by the way.

>
> Additional storage and transportation, for starters. Rick also gave

you
> links to articles about how environmentally damaging banana and

plantain
> crops are in Central America. Environmental damage from monocropped
> bananas and plantains means harm to animals through decreased habitat,
> pollution, etc.


That's barely different than crops grown here.

> >>>>In my direct reply to Skanky Carpetmuncher, I pointed
> >>>>out that by subordinating her absolute belief that it
> >>>>is wrong to kill animals to her wish for flavor variety
> >>>>in food, she is implicitly admitting, once again, that
> >>>>she is NOT "doing the best she can" at reducing animal
> >>>>death. In fact, she is revealing that she does NOT
> >>>>believe killing animals is wrong. Her reply was very
> >>>>revealing:

> >
> > You're the one putting absolute in there. I do indeed
> > believe that killing animals is wrong

>
> Wrong? Isn't that an absolute?


No. If it was, I would have said absolutely wrong.




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