Scented Nectar wrote:
>>>Given that
>>>I have no choice other than to starve, what do you
>>>suppose that I do.
>>
>>You have three different options. Put your money where your big mouth
>>is and actually garden in a manner consistent with your dubious
>>"principles." Recommend legitimate, widely-available products which
>>minimize CDs; those include certain kinds of meat, but NOT
>>mechanically planted or harvested produce. Or, best of all, you can stop making
>>false claims, moral and otherwise, about food choices.
>
> Buying a farm is not an option for me,

I know, you slacker.

> unless you are gifting me one or something.

Don't hold your breath.

> You say "widely available
> products...those include certain kinds of meat" What
> non-meat products do you refer to that lower cds?

Locally grown produce and grains. Grow your own -- check out some of
those community garden links I gave you a few weeks ago.

> Brand names please so we can all do the best we can.

Clueless ****ing urbanite. That's your problem -- you prate about
"veganic" produce and then want brand names. Your affinity for branding
is what causes you to kill more animals with your consumption. Look for
local foods, refuse to buy anything grown more than 200 miles away from
your front door.

> By the way, it's just ridiculous to suggest to a
> vegatarian or vegan that they eat meat.

I didn't recommend you do that, Skunky. I suggested you recommend those
who eat meat to eat those kinds.

> The intentional death is both more in-your-face

In your face as opposed to burying your head about CDs?

> and the health risks are unacceptable

There are no adverse health risks. If anything, it's better for you
because you're not consuming a marginal diet that has only qualified
support from the major dietetic organizations.

>>>I'm doing the best I can for both my health
>>
>>Bullshit. First, you willfully inhale toxins to get a buzz off
>>marijuana -- not good for your health, especially for your lungs. Smokers have a
>>far greater incidence of cancer of the lungs, larynx, pharynx,
>>esophagus, mouth, colon and breast than non-smokers. Marijuana
>>contains more tar than cigarettes. Marijuana is also inhaled very deeply and
>>the smoke is held in the lungs for a long time. Marijuana is smoked all
>>the way to the end where tar content is the highest. Many of the
>>cancer-causing substances in tobacco are also found in marijuana. It
>>also affects your central nervous system in an adverse manner. There
>>are few if any positive effects of marijuana use.
>
> Ew, there's that evil, evil weed again. Reefer Madness
> anyone?

Your childish sarcasm does nothing to address the fact that you
willfully and frequently consume something which is bad for you on many
levels despite your claims to be interested in good health. You're a
charlatan.

>>Second, you fail to distinguish between good and bad plant-based
>>foods, a la your boneheaded defense of eating hemp seeds and recommending
>>higher intake of omega-6 FAs despite information that lipids from
>>other plant sources provide enough and that one should focus on omega-3 FAs
>>intake to maintain a proper, healthier ratio. You make poor
>>generalizations about meat, saying ALL meat is bad despite the
>>evidence presented that the meat of game, grass-fed ruminants, and fish is very
>>healthful, high in omega-3 FAs, and LOW in saturated fats.
>
> Get it right. I mentioned that hempseed oil contains omegas 3, 6 and 9.

You said it was a good thing. You had no ****ing clue what you were
saying, you just wanted to repeat something you read on a pro-pot
website because you thought it was valid.

> You trolls jumped on and exaggerated my including of 6 in there.

No, I demonstrated that you're a mindless **** who mindlessly repeats
bullshit found on activist websites as though she the disinformation
she's peddling is the fruit of her "research."

> If every meateater switched to your 'better' meats, and did not
> reduce their consumption, then the above game would go extinct

Bullshit. I've asked you to prove this claim, and I've also shared with
you population numbers between people and deer in Texas alone. Deer are
NOT an endangered species. Eating more of them would benefit deer in the
aggregate because of their overpopulation in most regions of the US (and
probably Canada, too).

> and the 'grassfed' herds would barely supply anyone else.

Nonsense.

> Face
> it, the commercial meat industry supplies most meat eaters,

Consumers drive demand, commercial supply doesn't drive demand.

> and as far as the cds you're fond of mentioning, the amount is many,
> many timesfold.

That's not an issue except for the fact that you keep wanting to compare
apples to oranges.

>>It is the position of the American Dietetic Association and
>>Dietitians of Canada that *APPROPRIATELY PLANNED* vegetarian
>>diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide health
>>benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.
>>[my emphasis]
>> http://www.eatright.org/Public/Gover...s/92_17084.cfm
>
> What's your point? That vegans should balance their meals?

Definitely. It takes more planning on a vegetarian diet.

> Well, meateaters have to do that too, so what's your point?

Not as diligently.

>>>That's barely different than crops grown here.
>>
>>Ipse dixit, and what a pathetic little shit you are for bitching about
>>one kind of local production and then participating in it on a more
>>global scale.
>
> Ooo, a little mad are you?

Not mad at all. Just pointing out your rank hypocrisy.

> Stop telling vegans what they should be doing.

As long as you make categorical claims about things being right or
wrong, or nutritious or not, I will be here to correct you. Don't be
such a ****ing ingrate that I'm willing to volunteer such assistance.

> You're no expert.

I know a lot more than you about nutritional science, health, and
wellness than you ever will. I also know a lot more than you about
veganism and why it's a worse solution than the problems it seeks to
correct.

> You're not even vegan,

Hurray! You finally admit it.

> so what are you doing?!?!

Generously helping you with my accumulated knowledge. You don't realize
how lucky you are that kind strangers are so willing to freely assist
you in making wiser, more thoughtful, more conscientious decisions.