> > So, if the transportation industry, both national and international,
> > causes animal deaths, then are you suggesting that vegans
> > give up their clothing, tvs, mattresses, stoves, etc.?
> ===========================
> If you truly believed in what you spew, then yes. Your problem is
that you
> don't even try to reduce your impact. In fact, you have made a point
of
> acknowledging the fact that you go out of your way to ensure that you
use
> imported products. Quite compassionate of you, eh hypocrite?

Well, I for one am not willing to give up all machinery
and clothes (I'd get arrested!). Why do you call it MY
spew, when it's you trolls who keep bringing up your
cd expectations of us.

> > You certainly have some overly high expectations of
> > what you think vegans should do. It's funny that it's
> > the non-vegan, insulting trolls that have ridiculous
> > expectations.
> ====================
> LOL They aren't *my* expectations fool. They are your own words of
spewing
> that *YOU* care about animals when all you really do is follow the
simple
> rule for your simple mind that your religion demands of you.
Obviously you
> care nothing about your own contributions to unnecessary animal death
and
> suffering.

My 'simple' rule of not eating animal products is first and
foremost for health reasons. I know that I've also happened
to reduce cds in my dietary change and that makes me
happy too. Stop demanding that vegans eliminate ALL
cds everywhere. That's impossible in todays world.
I'm content with the dent I've made. Don't demand that
it be bigger. It's not up to you.

> > No, an owl is a hoot. Food storage by rodents
> > is a well known fact.
> ======================
> Yeah fool, they take the poisons they are deliberate fed back to their
nests
> while their guts turn to mush over a few days. How is that
compassionate,
> killer?

On commercial farms, where most crops go for use as
fodder, that's true. But on organic farms, that's not true.

> > Nonsense. There are b12 supplements if one's
> > intestinal flora aren't producing and absorbing it.
> ====================
> You don't absorb your own b12, fool. So much for all the research
you've
> claimed to have done. And then there is the suppliments. Back to
depending
> on the petro-chemical industry again, I see. Are you a shill for big
> industry? How much of a cut do you get for promoting all this extra
killing
> you propose, hypocrite?

I'd still rather take the bacterially grown (not petro) b12 supplements.
I forget the brand name, but I saved the message somewhere.

> >> >> > That's funny, I've been to very few 'activist' websites. I do
> >> >> > however go to and subscribe to, many science news sites.
> >> >> =======================
> >> >> LOL Then why are they on your site with links? Anything that
> >> > proclaims
> >> >> that something is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and
then
> >> > m,akes no
> >> >> mention of the fact hat there are differing opinions is an
> >> >> activist/propagand site looking to scam the rubes.
> >> >
> >> > On my recipe link site, I state clearly that all views, beliefs,
> >> > etc are those of the people who made the various recipe
> >> > sites. You will find activists, health nuts, food enthusiasts,
> >> > specialty food sites, etc. I go to those websites for recipes.
> >> > That's where my focus is. For scientific info, I go elsewhere.
> >> ===============
> >> Then you lied above, huh? You claimed you didn't go to 'activist'
> > sites,
> >> yet you link them from you page. What an ignorant dolt...
> >
> > I have been the activist's recipe sites. I go for the
> > recipes. I don't hang around to join a cause, even
> > though it's a good one.
> ================
> Then you did ly? You claimed you didn't go to them.

I said I've been to very few. When I go to recipe sites from
my listing, I'm there for the recipes. I hardly notice the other
stuff there. I'm sure some sites are 'activist'. Some are
religious, some promote health reasons, some just want
to share their recipes. Doesn't matter. It's the recipes
I read and list.

> >> >> > By admitting that hunting the deer would reverse their
> >> >> > overpopulation, you admit that hunting them keeps
> >> >> > lowering their amounts. After they are no longer
> >> >> > overpopulated, when you keep hunting (the demand
> >> >> > for meat doesn't go away you know) their numbers
> >> >> > keep going down until they are extinct.
> >> >> ==================
> >> >> Clueless urbanite. You have no clue as to animals, do you
killer?
> >> >
> >> > Try reading my paragraph again. Did you take any
> >> > rudimentary mathematics when you were a kid?
> >> ==================
> >> Math has nothing to do with animal numbers fool. Deer are hunted
> > now, and
> >> guess what? Their numbers continue to rise, fool.
> >
> > Try increasing the hunt to replace all factory farmed
> > meat. You'll see extinction soon enough.
> ==================
> Why? We are talking about what an individual could do to improve
their
> impact on animals and the environment, not the masses. Why is it you
want
> to compare apples and oranges when it comes to what can 'feed the
world,'
> fool?

Why not talk about the masses? The reality is that
the masses affect the world around us. What are
the apples and oranges you're talking about? If
ALL individuals took your advise, demand would
exceed supply big time.




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http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/
A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites.
Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button.