usual suspect adding on in response to Skunky:
>> On organic farms you won't find the rodent killing
>> chemicals that turn their insides to mush.
>
> Oh, please tell me your source for this information. Here are a few
> details I can pass along to show otherwise:
>
> Organic pesticides cause cancer in rodents (and humans):
> One of organic farming's most widely used
> pesticides--pyrethrum--has been classified as a ``likely human
> carcinogen.'' An advisory committee to the Environmental
> Protection Agency made the classification two years ago, after
> pyrethrum caused higher-than-normal numbers of tumors in two
> different sets of laboratory rodents.
> http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articl...1/jun_8_01.htm
>
> Organic pesticides induce Parkinson's Disease-like symptoms in rodents
> (and humans):
> Rotenone, a commonly used organic pesticide, has attracted a lot
> of attention in Dr. Greenamyre's lab. In past studies, Dr.
> Greenamyre and colleagues found that rotenone can induce major
> features of PD in rats, including slowness, stiffness and
> tremor. Published in Nature Neuroscience in November 2000, these
> results support the idea that chronic exposure to environmental
> pesticides may contribute to the incidence of Parkinson's
> disease in humans. With the new funding, Dr. Greenamyre will
> continue to research rodent and cell models of PD to determine
> which genes cause susceptibility or resistance to the
> PD-inducing effects of pesticides.
> http://www.scienceblog.com/community.../20022444.html
>
> Organic pesticides affect more than just target species:
> Some organic pesticides may be toxic to nontargets.
> http://www.nysipm.cornell.edu/public...are/which.html
>
> Organic pesticides are as toxic as their synthetic counterparts, and
> many of them are banned under the Rotterdam Convention:
> The Convention has already been signed by 73 countries –
> including Brazil – and ratified by 18. It will come into effect
> once there are 50 signatory countries.The original products list
> included 22 organic pesticides considered to be highly toxic...
> http://www.nex.org.br/english/denuci...enenamento.htm
>
> Finally, but not because I'm out of ammo on the subject, an organic
> pesticide called Dichlorodiphenyl trichloroethane is banned because of
> its pervasive toxicity. You probably have heard of it by its initials: DDT.
> http://www.epa.gov/history/publications/formative6.htm

Here's more. Organic pesticides kill fish:
While some organic pesticides may be nontoxic or are only
slightly toxic to people, they may be very toxic to other
animals. For instance, the organic pesticide ryania is very
toxic to fish.
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2756.htm

Organic pesticides kill a variety of non-target species, and foods grown
organically are not labeled "pesticide free":
Organic pesticides are used widely. Some are toxic. Rotenone
kills fish. Copper sulphate kills many creatures. In California,
an organic pesticide, sulphur, represents one-third of all
pesticide use. For obvious reasons, organic farmers don’t call
their produce "pesticide free."
http://www.ontariocorn.org/ocpmag/pestruth.html
See also:
http://www.hudson.org/index.cfm?fuse...etails&id=1677

Copper sulphate is more harmful to a variety of species than its
conventional counterpart:
Leake candidly criticized organic farmers for using nasty but
"natural" pesticides. "The use of copper and sulphur fungicide
sprays seems inconsistent with the claim that organic
agriculture is pesticide-free. On examination, the
eco-toxicology of copper sulphate is undoubtedly more harmful
and persistent than its conventional counterpart, Mancozeb."

Leake even provided a handy table, showing that the copper
sulphate used by organic farmers is toxic to humans, very toxic
to earthworms and fish, moderately toxic to birds and harmful to
small mammals.
http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articl...0/sep_8_00.htm

Effects of copper sulphate -- an organic pesticide/fungicide -- on a
variety of species including humans:
There have been reports of human suicide resulting from the
ingestion of gram quantities of this material.... Copper sulfate
is very toxic to fish.... Copper sulfate is toxic to aquatic
invertebrates, such as crab, shrimp and oysters. Based on data
on the potential hazards posed by this material to the
slackwater darter, freshwater mussels, and Solano grass, and in
an effort to minimize exposure of endangered species to this
material, applicators in some counties are required to consult
EPA endangered species bulletins before applying copper sulfate.
http://tinyurl.com/5y4hm

Organic pesticides ARE toxins:
Organic pesticide - not an oxymoron, because many organic
farmers use pesticides. A pesticide is any compound that kills
pests. So Rotenone is considered an organic pesticide even
though it does a fantastic job of killing pests and has
questionable safety. Rotenone is derived from the roots of
various South American legumes. It is a nerve poison that
paralyzes insects. Other organic pesticides include copper
compounds that can be tough on other organisms and the
environment. Pyrethrins are pesticides derived from the
pyrethrum daisies. They are a nerve poison that is effective on
a wide range of insects. Pyrethrins are moderately toxic to
mammals and highly toxic to fish. It is illegal to apply them
around ponds or waterways. So even though it says "organic", it
can still pack a nasty punch.
http://www.springledgefarm.com/glossary.htm

How much more evidence do you need, Skunky, before you stop making wild
claims about the superiority of organic farming techniques with respect
to concern for human health, wildlife safety, etc.? You jelly-headed,
clueless urbanite.