Scented Nectar wrote:
> > > Do you dispute that the animal product industry
> > > as a whole uses more crops and thus has more
> > > cds than plant foods grown for human consumption
> > > as a whole?
> >
> > Maybe. Maybe not. Grass-fed beef doesn't. Besides, who said
> anything
> > about animal industry?
>
> As a whole. That's what I'm talking about. There's not
> enough of your grass fed beef to supply the full demand
> for beef. That's where the rest of the industry comes in,
> factory farming beef, pork, poultry, eggs, dairy... There
> is a high demand for these products.

So what? There's enough grass fed beef to supply YOU. What's YOUR
excuse?

>
> > > Animals need way more crops to
> > > produce a pound of meat than for a pound of
> > > vegan food. Pigs, poultry, you name it, it takes
> > > more crops to feed them.
> >
> > Grass-fed beef doesn't. Hunted venison doesn't.
>
> If all meat eaters turned to hunted meat and grass
> fed beef, the hunted would become extinct. The
> demand for meat is too high. Also, there would
> be people still demanding pork and poultry.

There's enough for YOU. What's YOUR excuse?

>
> > > Anyways, if you're so concerned about cds,
> > > then do something about it. I've done my
> > > bit, like it or leave it.
> >
> > I'm not. I don't think there's anything ethically wrong with
animals
> > dying so I can eat; that's just the way nature works. My point is,
> you
> > haven't "done your bit." You haven't really done anything.
> >
> > It's as plain as the nose on your face that some meats come at a
lower
> > cd cost than some veggies. You don't care. It's not about cd's,
it's
> > not about animals. It's about something you can do that makes you
> > THINK you're doing something, when the effort doesn't really amount
to
> > anything. Especially not any real critical thinking on your part.
>
> Even if some uncommon meats are somewhat lower in cds
> I still don't like the idea of eating dead body parts. I think I
> can speak for most vegan/vegetarians on that matter. Eating
> dead bodies is just not an option. The idea is quite repulsive.
> There are always vegan alternatives, some with 0 deaths,
> whereas meat will always have a minimum of 1.

So, it's not about ethics, it's about aesthetics. You think it's
"icky."

And NONE of your "vegan alternatives" have 0 deaths. NONE.
You ARE a hypocrite, a moral shirker of the worst sort.