In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote
>
> > If people need to blame me for their actions, well, I'm a big boy and
> > can handle that. The reality is, of course, that anyone who kills and
> > relies on the "they made me do it argument" is just being juvenile and
> > passing responsibility for their own actions.
>
> Who makes you place a demand for meat on the meat market?

You do, Dutch. I'm not responsible for my own actions under your
theoretical constructs. Someone else _must_ be responsible for my
demand. How could I possibly be responsible for my own actions. If the
killer of animals isn't responsible for their actions then, how did I
become responsible for my actions?

> > Until we can find a suitable treatment or cure for individuals who
> > delight in take the lives of other animals and would likely inflict that
> > aggression on humans, my CHOICE is to allow the behaviour to continue.
> > As a matter of survival if it is the difference between a cow dying or
> > some crazed person who delights in killing animals being lose in the
> > community to fill their lust for blood and death -- the cow looses.
>
> Right, a process admittedly supported by you.

Yup. Support it, hell, I'm willing to see government grants for former
and potential killers to keep them away from others.

Better the cow gets it, than the famer's wife, kid, or someone in a
nearby town. Someone who has to kill that much is just plain mentally
ill and needs help.