"Ron" > wrote in message
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> In article >, "Dutch" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Ron" > wrote
>> > "Dutch" > wrote:
>>
>> [..]
>> >> Who is forcing you to do business with animal-killing farmers Ronny?
>> >> Who
>> >> is
>> >> making you do it? Why are you attempting to avoid responsibility for
>> >> your
>> >> personal choices?
>> >
>> > My choice was to buy tomatoes today. That you've magnified that act
>> > into
>> > some deed of evil is more about you than me. I needed some tomatoes
>> > today. I bought the ones that conformed to my needs.
>>
>> Indeed, and the animal-killing farmers in Mexico thank you for your
>> contributions. They'll be clearing and spraying some more land to meet
>> your
>> insatiable appetite for tomatoes.
>
> Let's recap.
>
> I have purchased tomatoes in the past past 2 weeks, three times. Prior
> to this, I purchased some in approximately May of 2004. Imagine my
> surprise and chagrin to note that farmers still kill animals, use
> pesticides, clear land and all of those things when I don't buy their
> products. Could it be that they are responsible for their own actions? I
> don't control the universe. They will still do what they do independent
> of my actions.

They are not independent of your actions, in fact they DEPEND on your
demand. The reason nothing changes is that your demand is very small, but
significant in principle.


>> > Evil, immoral me. Shoot me now. I bought tomatoes. I'm goin to hell in
>> > a
>> > handbasket now. I'm just a heathen tomato eater.
>>
>> Nah, I'll hire someone else to it, nothing wrong with that, right?
>
> That's right. The person who acts on it is the one I want in prison --
> or farming, or both.

Farmers in prison huh? Who is going to kill animals on your behalf then?