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"Ron" > wrote in message
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> In article . net>,
> "rick etter" > wrote:
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>> "Ron" > wrote in message
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>> > In article >,
>> > usual suspect > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Twink Ron wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>This ignores the fact that animals die in the course of "vegan"
>> >> >>>>>>food
>> >> >>>>>>production, too. Those deaths -- through poisoning, mutilation,
>> >> >>>>>>drowning, predation, etc. -- are significantly more "cruel" than
>> >> >>>>>>the
>> >> >>>>>>humane slaughter which they object.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Killed, of course, by meat eaters.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>You mean by meat-eating farmers hired by urbanite vegans to
>> >> >>>>produce
>> >> >>>>food
>> >> >>>>at the lowest possible price rather than the most peculiar set of
>> >> >>>>pseudo-ethics. Vegans are hypocritical scumbags, and so are you
>> >> >>>>for
>> >> >>>>so
>> >> >>>>feebly attempting to defend them.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Scumbag? *hand goes to forehead in shock and horror*
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Drama queen.
>> >> >
>> >> > *bats eye lashes in flattered state*
>> >>
>> >> It's not flattery. Well, not to normal people.
>> >>
>> >> >>>I find you evasive.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Pot calling the kettle black. You write I'm evasive, while others
>> >> >>have
>> >> >>written extensively that I'm too blunt.
>> >> >
>> >> > Blunt, as in being rude and abusive is different than evasive, as in
>> >> > elaborating on any point further than ....well, you know the drill.
>> >>
>> >> Some consider the elaborating to be rude and abusive: the truth hurts.
>> >>
>> >> >>>Please clarify what ethical or moral code that any
>> >> >>>vegan is violating.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Easy: *their own*.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'll clarify,
>> >>
>> >> You're not clarifying, Twink, you're trying to evade the issue. Vegans
>> >> prate about their high standards and then have a perverse indifference
>> >> to the net results of their diet. Their standard is not causing animal
>> >> suffering and death. The *results* of their lifestyles are filled with
>> >> animal suffering and death. They have other options available to them
>> >> to
>> >> minimize animal suffering and death, but they're content to make
>> >> meaningless gestures, such as their irrational obsessions about animal
>> >> parts.
>> >>
>> >> > what is the moral principle that you believe the vegan is
>> >> > violating when you state that they are not following their own moral
>> >> > code.
>> >>
>> >> It's a peculiar one of their own design, applied with tremendous
>> >> amounts
>> >> of hypocrisy and sanctimony.
>> >>
>> >> > Is this the platinum rule, the golden, or some other unnamed moral
>> >> > code?
>> >>
>> >> It's an oxymoron called "vegan ethics."
>> >
>> > Oh, if only it were true that vegans believed as you did that they are
>> > some hom responsible for the actions and outcomes of others.
>> >
>> > You are responsible for me if you accept that premeditated murder is
>> > wrong. I expect you front and centre to accompany me tomorrow and keep
>> > me safe. Don't prove to be a hypocrite.

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>> If you ever went to school for this, I'd go demand my money back if I
>> were
>> you. They failed you miserably, fool. Logic is really really hard for
>> you, isn't it?

>
> Arguing the status quo of one nation of many and over thousands of years
> of history is just so uneducated and uninformed that I'll allow you to
> further demonstrate your... well, only you can make you look bad.

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I see you're reduced to just babbling now, eh pansy-boy?