Twink Ron wrote:
> In article et>,
> Rudy Canoza > wrote:
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>>Ron wrote:
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>>>In article . net>,
>>> Rudy Canoza > wrote:
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>>>>Ron wrote:
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>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>usual suspect > wrote:
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>>>>>>Twink Ron wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>This ignores the fact that animals die in the course of "vegan"
>>>>>>>>>>>>food
>>>>>>>>>>>>production, too. Those deaths -- through poisoning, mutilation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>drowning, predation, etc. -- are significantly more "cruel" than
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>humane slaughter which they object.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Killed, of course, by meat eaters.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You mean by meat-eating farmers hired by urbanite vegans to produce
>>>>>>>>>>food
>>>>>>>>>>at the lowest possible price rather than the most peculiar set of
>>>>>>>>>>pseudo-ethics. Vegans are hypocritical scumbags, and so are you for
>>>>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>>feebly attempting to defend them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Scumbag? *hand goes to forehead in shock and horror*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Drama queen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>*bats eye lashes in flattered state*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's not flattery. Well, not to normal people.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I find you evasive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Pot calling the kettle black. You write I'm evasive, while others have
>>>>>>>>written extensively that I'm too blunt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Blunt, as in being rude and abusive is different than evasive, as in
>>>>>>>elaborating on any point further than ....well, you know the drill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Some consider the elaborating to be rude and abusive: the truth hurts.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Please clarify what ethical or moral code that any
>>>>>>>>>vegan is violating.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Easy: *their own*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'll clarify,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You're not clarifying, Twink, you're trying to evade the issue. Vegans
>>>>>>prate about their high standards and then have a perverse indifference
>>>>>>to the net results of their diet. Their standard is not causing animal
>>>>>>suffering and death. The *results* of their lifestyles are filled with
>>>>>>animal suffering and death. They have other options available to them to
>>>>>>minimize animal suffering and death, but they're content to make
>>>>>>meaningless gestures, such as their irrational obsessions about animal
>>>>>>parts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>what is the moral principle that you believe the vegan is
>>>>>>>violating when you state that they are not following their own moral
>>>>>>>code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's a peculiar one of their own design, applied with tremendous amounts
>>>>>>of hypocrisy and sanctimony.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>Is this the platinum rule, the golden, or some other unnamed moral
>>>>>>>code?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's an oxymoron called "vegan ethics."
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>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, if only it were true that vegans believed as you did that they are
>>>>>some hom responsible for the actions and outcomes of others.
>>>>
>>>>He doesn't believe that "vegans" are responsible for
>>>>the actions of other. He believes, quite rightly, that
>>>>they share in responsibility for the deaths of animals
>>>>that are caused to produced the food they eat.
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>>>What principle causes shared responsibility for another's actions.
>>
>>Get it right first - learn to read first - and you
>>might get a better response. No one is positing
>>"shared responsibility" for another's ACTIONS. Reread
>>it, dummy.
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> I limit my exposure to abusive individuals.
No you don't, freak.
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